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Board choice - Nitro Team/Team Pro vs Burton Feelgood

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#1 · (Edited)
Anther season of board hoarding, and eternal look out for the perfect daily driver...
And again, calling for help from the mighty forum. 😁

Ride profile:
Female, 162cm tall, 60kg
Mondo 23.5cm boots
Burton Lexa Size M bindings
Current daily driver: Yes Hel Yes 152cm (previously on Rossi Diva 152cm, essentially similar boards, both camber dominant rcrs with mag traction)

Local Terrain: variable snow condition, icy, rocky, crowdy, pow is a dream that almost never come true.
Riding preference: all mountain free ride, love to venture out when snow permitting to explore the whole mountain, into carving (still learning), forever trying to perfect the turns (long way to go), have 0 interest in park

Thanks to Burton Custom X 150cm (in my collection but obviously not a daily driver for me), for past 2 seasons the impression just deepened - I love camber... the locked in feeling, ease to get a clean edge, the precision, pop, stability, just feels right and comfortable.
I know it's limitations full well too, tiring and lifeless in soft slushy snow and possibly in pow (only that I didn't get any of it to test, but can easily imagine). Also due to custom x's stiffness faster is better, slowing down is just painful, moguls, narrow steeps, dodging crowds on overpopulated runs, where quick turns needed at slow speed, it's not gonna to do it for me. What kept me away from making it my daily driver... but a super fun and satisfying deck to ride from time to time, definitely a keeper just not quiver of one that does everything anytime.

I hope I could have settled for Yes Hel Yes as daily driver, but somehow, just love camber and that love is growing more and more.
Yes is OK, it does everything as a daily driver should, but there is no fun factor in riding it. Maybe due to skill that I no longer know how to find the sweet spot of the hybrids? Or change in personal preferences? But whenever I am on Yes, I kinda really miss the clean edge only camber provides, I miss that locked in feeling and the precision only camber has, well to me at least. Maybe camber dominant hybrids can have the same locked in, precision feeling too, not shy away from true camber, I just don't know how to unleash it? Or camber is just camber, nothing beats it in it's game?
This becomes more apparent after I managed to demo Ride Benchwarmer 147cm (short, but they only have it), it's kinda of true camber too. So easy to get on and hold a clean edge, feels so nice. Bit too soft for me though, lack stability in higher speed which I feel I can't push it. Cruising is OK, but can't ride it too hard. Would worry a bit if snow was hard and icy and having more speed, but other than that, quite enjoyable ride, and nimble enough for me even at low speed.

So got me thinking, maybe I could make true camber a daily driver... just need to be a tad softer than Custom X, yet more aggressive than Ride Benchwarmer.

Now seriously considering to move to true camber as daily driver next season, have following on my list to consider, and wish to get some thoughts and recommendations from you lovely people whom might know or actually ridden those boards especially the Nitro Team/pro. Would be even better to hear from someone rode both, but not putting my hopes high as they're male and female boards, don't think guys would ride girls board, girls might as we have less to choose from (the special girl out there whom rode both boards would be the magical answer to my payers in this question 😍):
  1. Burton Feelgood 149cm - advantage is female specific, also only one I've actually tried. Proven to be good, but didn't manage to get it in right size and right price for the last 2 seasons, kinda forever on my wishlist to watch out for. But have never been keen enough to get it at higher price for the reason it was less exciting and responsive to ride compared to Custom X. Yeah, quite manageable, but for a daily driver, I remember it was quite tiring riding in deeper softer snow (down South Island where snow is better than local resort) even with some setback. I blame Nitro Drop, rode it the same day in the afternoon when snow softened, way too much fun. 😅 Maybe too clear of a comparison just not fair to Feelgood. In the morning when snow was hard Nitro Drop sucked though, Feelgood was the way to go.
    Now re-thinking, after riding Ride Benchwarmer (camber too) on soft slushy snow, float was quite OK, didn't experience the constant pull from front leg. Not too sure if it's the build of the boards causing the difference, or I wasn't comparing it with Nitro Drop, so not putting it on spot with a harsh eye...? Maybe Feelgood could be OK re float?
    Overall, like it, but just didn't care it enough, though it's a woman's specific camber board. Kept it on list to watch out for a good deal.

  2. Nitro Team/Team Pro
    More leaning towards pro, as both are of medium stiffish flex, just pro is faster with more pop. Interesting new find, have a feeling it might be the right daily driver for me...?
    Only concern is, it's man's board, a little wider.
    The smallest I can get is 152cm, being a man's board 246mm wide.
    Feelgood is 242mm wide, my old daily driver that's quite comfy was 244mm wide, Ride Benchwarmer I rode was 245mm wide which wasn't a problem for me at all, easier to get on edge even compared to my daily driver, in fact I wished it to be more aggressive, though it's 5cm shorter, will adding 5cm in length in combination change the story...? Or this is indicative enough as I normally ride 152cm stiffish boards. Anyway was kind of thinking that little added width for Team/Team Pro should be quite OK?
    No chance to demo, that's why asking you wonderful people.
    For a daily driver, I don't want it to compromise on nimbleness, has to be better or same as my current daily driver in other aspects (speed, stability, edge hold on ice), just be TRUE CAMBER. Slight reduction in float on softer snow is OK, that's what camber is, I am OK with it, can't ask it to be perfect in every aspect.
Love to hear from those of you rode those boards, thanks in advance for your valuable inputs and help.
 
#3 · (Edited)
My main board is a nitro team and honestly this board can handle anything. From park to groomers to powder. It has a dual degressive sidecut ( tighter sidecut in the middle and more mellow at the tip and tail) which makes it more versatile than the radial which I believe the burton feelgood has. The team is lively, lightweight and with a nice easy pop. The team pro has a faster base and has more pop. It is not very expensive either for what it offers. I just don’t know how the flex will work with your weight. The width of the team is fine for your boot size as well. The women’s version is the nitro Fate but it has a bit of a rocker at the tip and tail but not as much as the Yes board. Then you can step up to Nitro Victoria which is a true camber but with a progressive sidecut, more of a freeride board.
From what you describe maybe the Team Pro or Victoria would work for you.
Oh and by the way my Nitro team has 9mm of camber!
 
#5 · (Edited)
My main board is a nitro team and honestly this board can handle anything.
Cool! Thank you, great to hear.

It has a dual degressive sidecut ( tighter sidecut in the middle and more mellow at the tip and tail) which makes it more versatile than the radial which I believe the burton feelgood has.
Good mentioning, thank you! Forgot about it completely. Still yet to get a better feel about it re side cut. Only thing I know thus far is I find I quite like asymmetrical side cut.

It seems to be the same as my Nitro Drop, so guess I am farmilar with it (didn't pay much attention or not good enough to tell the difference, the board just rides very differently to my other boards, fun and playful, grabbing it when snow is soft and slushy and I want a surfy ride). Can't find what side cut it is on Burton Feelgood, unlike Nitro whom states it so clearly, Burton seems to skip it from their product spec... But dual degressive sidecut is definitely more versatile and forgiving than radial, sounds like something I need for a daily driver good all rounder.

I just don’t know how the flex will work with your weight.
There is a bit uncertainty there... but being kinda of used to Custom X (although clearly knowing it's too stiff for me for 60% of my riding, 40% just excels), suppose Nitro Team/Pro would be a good step down much more relaxed and versatile... interesting to know how it compares to Burton Feelgood though, probably a better comparison... guess I'll find out when I get my hands on it. Right now leaning more towards teams than feelgood.
Have a strange feeling maybe even Feelgood was too stiff for me in soft deeper snow... I clearly remembered the front leg pull and fatigue when snow softened, also although doable, but so dull and lifeless on soft snow. Yet amazing and easy on icy hard pack in morning, it's where it comes to life. Though don't feel that at all on Ride Benchwarmer, quite good on soft snow actually, not as good as nitro drop, but the locked in and precision feeling was better than Nitro Drop. I am not sure what made the difference compared to Feelgood, can only suspect it's the flex? Maybe feelgood is stiffer, so more draining to pull the nose up?

The women’s version is the nitro Fate but it has a bit of a rocker at the tip and tail
nah, definitely true camber this time! 😁

Nitro Victoria which is a true camber but with a progressive sidecut, more of a freeride board.
Thanks, good to know the comparable female version. Bit too hard to find from local even neighbouring (Aussie, as I am in NZ) market though... I might have better luck getting Nitro team/pro... especially for a goodish price. Women's board, scarce means just not there or not enough to last to the crazy good sales. Men's if you keep your eyes open, sometimes you can find jaw dropping good deals, eg. why I have Flagship man's 158cm and Custom X 150cm 😅, they were like 40 - 50% off I think! 🙄 My yes and Rossi was more expensive than them... damn! Wish I could have got Flagship Woman's in the right size for the price I got man's for. But Custom X is OK, no woman's comparable boards there I think, and one of a kind definitely enriches your quievers. 🤭

my Nitro team has 9mm of camber!
😲how did you manage to find out that much detailed and specific info. on your board?! Did you measure or is there somewhere I can find that too for my boards or boards of my interest???
 
#15 ·
@Snowdaddy 😂 don't tempt me anymore, I already have too many boards, and wanting to do to many things.
Love that fun surfy type of carving, but local resort don't have the terrain for it at all. Else I'd have got the Rossi XV Sushi LF, or something similar, like piglets. Korua's commercial is always fun to watch, just lucky that it's a rare find in NZ and we have no terrain for it from North. Saved me another struggle.
But thanks for the vid. Definitely can't stop to be stoked and share it around. 😁
 
#33 ·
I have the team 159 and Pantera 163. 75kg, 165cm mondo 270. Love them both but the team is much more versatile. Pantera is a speed loving, ice carving, side hit launching beast. It can pop. Not my first or second or third choice for powder.

Team does it all. SO locked in under average conditions. It can handle speed well too. I would never hesitate to recommend to anyone looking for a twinish full camber deck. When I lay it over deep in spring conditions, I boot out a bit. Maybe the extra width will be a good thing? On the other hand, finding a female specific option is usually the best answer.


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#35 ·
I have the team 159 and Pantera 163. 75kg, 165cm mondo 270. Love them both but the team is much more versatile. Pantera is a speed loving, ice carving, side hit launching beast. It can pop. Not my first or second or third choice for powder.

Team does it all. SO locked in under average conditions. It can handle speed well too. I would never hesitate to recommend to anyone looking for a twinish full camber deck. When I lay it over deep in spring conditions, I boot out a bit. Maybe the extra width will be a good thing? On the other hand, finding a female specific option is usually the best answer.


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Great to hear, sounds very promising, everybit I am hoping for! Versatile, good for everthing, true camber! 😁

But 'ice carving'... that sounds so nice... considering we have ice way too often... keeping this on the list, hopefully to be able to demo someday.

Though Team Pro - top of To Buy List 😄
 
#37 ·
Hey @Anais , did you endup getting the nitro team pro? I'm super curious, Im a 63kg us7.5 men's (25.5cm mondo) rider, have a yes Hel yes, and although I can do everything on it, I would like to try a full camber board. I ride LOTS of ice in Canada's east coast. Honestly I was thinking about team pro, or maybe yes basic unic full camber (although sometimes I doubt those weird sidecuts really helps in something). Weird or not, I saw people complaining that Burton custom is mediocre on ice, even with full camber. Let me know if you found your new board :)
 
#38 ·
@Felipe Unfortunately not, it just never comes in my size when on sale... but a friend who got Nitro Team spoke very highly of it. I'm still keeping my eyes on it, but no longer a top of priority thing. Due to sale, I got myself a Burton Story Board instead, S Camber, almost ride like a full camber, but it's not a full camber at least I don't feel the power of the traditional camber when riding it. However without the nose sunk and painful float in deeper/slush snow, and it's close. It's great and versatile, but still not 100%, however almost there.
Awkward thing is, now feel like I've got myself 2 daily drivers, none is a clear winner, both have it's own tiny little perks over the other. I still find in some situations I might prefer one over the other, but they're both really great daily drivers, like 90% there?

Burton Story is more aggressive and precise than Yes Hel Yes, provides the little added speed and stability I always wished for, you can get a bit more performance out of it. Rides almost like a traditional full camber, but not exactly, nothing beats a good full camber in it's game. I've ridden some soft stuff, a little bit of icy stuff with it, handled both well, I don't t think it's compromising on edge hold under icy conditions, but may need more testing to be sure.
Yes Hel Yes seems to be more playful and easy going in some ways, I'm more familiar with the handling of Hel Yes than Story, so despite all the short falls I still think it's a solid daily driver, more versatile, although less powerful.

I hear good things about serated edges like Hel Yes has (vs. clean true camber) is, when both edges aren't sharp, it actually out performs true camber. For a true camber, you want a nice sharp edge on ice. But mag traction seems to be biting in OK even when a little dull. Also personally I feel stiffer boards have more edge hold than softer ones, even when profile (true camber) is exactly the same.

It's our off season, so next time on snow would be 5 months from now. Jealous of you guys having great fun out there. :) Good luck and have fun, should you come across that 'dream build' I'd really appreciate if you remember to tell me. I've always been looking for that ultimate daily driver, I know I probably have got the best possible already, but there is always that feel I wish I'm on the other board/s sometimes depending on the condition, terrain and what I want to do, yet I can never be bothered to swith boards during the day, lol~~~ never ending human greed, just want that perfect board that not only does everything OK, but does them great if not amazing!