[Turms]

What you say about my ankles bro!?

nothing...not be offend please

 

[Turms]

i saw the video in ride website and they mention the make a boot that can last a season or maybe two season....
is that so? o thought a boot last more then two seasons....

 

[ridethecliche]

nothing...not be offend please

Haha no offense taken. I was kidding. 😁

 

[Surgeon]

.and after some time the clue cannot hold the tongue and come to this results

That's actually a good observation. The fact that the tongue is pulled back by the cable with their tongue-tied (sp?) system may very well cause damage to the tongue stitching in the long-run. It's just conjecture since I've never owned a pair of Ride boots but it's actually a good point and theory.

 

[Turms]

i hade never also a Ride but i suppose that the problem comes from there.

 

[ridethecliche]

It's definitely part of it but the burrito liner is actually very very good.

I have small ankles and use a significant amount of boot fitting foam myself to suck up some of the extra volume.

 

[WigMar]

This happened to me as well. I lost the tongue on my back foot sometime after fifty days or so. I glued it back on with some E6000 glue, and got many more days outta those boots.

 

[ridethecliche]

This happened to me as well. I lost the tongue on my back foot sometime after fifty days or so. I glued it back on with some E6000 glue, and got many more days outta those boots.

Shoot, I didn't know that you got way more mileage out of them after doing that. I thought they held together for a little bit... I really shouldn't have trashed them. Fark! I would have slathered that shiz on there or tried the epoxy that I have already.... Ughhh.

Oh well. I hope the TM3's with the burrito liners and the additional mods I did will get me through this season. I'm only going to get like 15ish days and I really need to get a real boot fit for next season. I didn't ride super aggressively the 4 times I've been out this season, but the last time I rode these boots I had awful toe bang on day 2. With the liners I had a little toe pain after 2 days, but did some more mods and hoping it'll be even better!

 

[robotfood99]

With my Tridents, I noticed the tongue-tied boa started to pressure the sides of my ankles when cranked beyond a certain point, so I put some shortened Eliminator tongue shims between the slime tongue and the wrap liner. One of the nice things about the wrap liner is their low bulk, so even with the addition of shims, the tongue volume isn't overly bulky.

 

[lab49232]

They were in storage for a few months at most and I'm guessing they weren't in someone's furnace room... If the materials that Ride uses are so fragile that they fall apart with storage for about a year then this is probably going to be seen a lot more. I know you've 'worked in the industry' but man this is kinda sorta a bad take.

I think you misunderstood me. It looks like bad desing being glued in like that but bad design is not manufacturing defect. A simply glued tongue of a snowboard boot sitting around and then being ridden hard for over 3 years is unlikely to hold up to much abuse.

The other thing we tend to forget is the average rider puts in 3 days a year. 50+ days of gear use doesn't sound like a lot to those of us here, but industry wise, that's a lot of seasons of use. But I get 3 years or 80 days out of boots at max usually.

 

[ridethecliche]

I think you misunderstood me. It looks like bad desing being glued in like that but bad design is not manufacturing defect. A simply glued tongue of a snowboard boot sitting around and then being ridden hard for over 3 years is unlikely to hold up to much abuse.

The other thing we tend to forget is the average rider puts in 3 days a year. 50+ days of gear use doesn't sound like a lot to those of us here, but industry wise, that's a lot of seasons of use. But I get 3 years or 80 days out of boots at max usually.

FWIW the Warboss was a 2020 model which I bought NOS in the fall of 2021.
I rode 50 days last season and I'm guessing these had 45-50 tops. Still, this is a failure point. It appears that others have had this exact issue but were able to continue to use the boots after fixing the tongue, so it's essentially the first thing that gives ya know?

Really looks like they need to use a better adhesive and stitching to eliminate this as a weak point early on in usable life.

But realistically, I'll be lucky to get like 20ish days a season most years moving forward.

At the end of the day, it is what it is. I don't blame ride for not warrantying this boot. It would have been nice, but I didn't buy from an authorized retailer so it's fine. 0 hard feelings about that. BUT at the end of the day, the boots continuing to fail in this way in future model years just means that they don't care about QC which would be kinda sad.

Point taken on defect vs bad design. I wouldn't say that the design is inherently bad, but the join needs to be reinforced. If the factory didn't do it to the extent in the design...it would be a defect!

 

[Phedder]

Have had this happen to 2 pairs, both were warrantied without issue. I haven't taken the liner out to check, but it feels like I'm halfway there on another pair. Bought in late Feb 2022, so I'll be taking them back to the shop shortly and getting those warrantied too while within the 1 year of purchase.

It does suck, and really is an issue they should address. But at this rate, I get most of a season out of a pair of boots I pay retail for, then most of the next season out of the warranty replacement. All in 150ish days give or take from 2 pairs, if they didn't warranty them I'd be pissed.

 

[MrDavey2Shoes]

I just hate breaking in boots so often

 

[Turms]

as i mentioned, Ride in the video said they bought this boots, so the can last one or even two season.
To be honest i will never buy snowboard boots, when the manufacturer make such a statement.

Are they proud for this????

 

[robotfood99]

There's probably some context you missed, like frequency of use, etc. If put to use regularly, a season or two does not sound absurd.

All this is probably an outcome of Ride making things for the mass market, where they choose to cut corners with materials and workmanship and suck up warranty as cost. This happens in just about all mass manufacturing these days, from shoes to cars, so waddayagunnado.

If enough warranty claims are made on a particular issue, there's a point where a design/process change makes more dollar sense. Hopefully, this is one such case.

 

[Turms]

definitely. A year or two is not the same for everyone
My "year" or better season was before the kids over 60 days, now 30.... etc

 

[ridethecliche]

There's probably some context you missed, like frequency of use, etc. If put to use regularly, a season or two does not sound absurd.

All this is probably an outcome of Ride making things for the mass market, where they choose to cut corners with materials and workmanship and suck up warranty as cost. This happens in just about all mass manufacturing these days, from shoes to cars, so waddayagunnado.

If enough warranty claims are made on a particular issue, there's a point where a design/process change makes more dollar sense. Hopefully, this is one such case.

Agreed here, but this seems like a such a simple thing to fix especially when they keep getting boots warrantied like this.
It definitely hasn't soured me on their stuff, but I'll buy from an authorized retailer next time. I'm curious about their other offerings since this is the best fitting boot I've found for me out of the box. This and the lasso, but lasso didn't work as well for other reasons. Still have those shells just in case...

 

[ridethecliche]

I really should have reglued the tongues back on to try to see me through the rest of the season ugh...

 

[ridethecliche]

To continue the saga. I used the TM3's with the liner from the fuses over the weekend and it was okay. I think the hard toe on the TM3 causes some bruising on top of my toe (not toe bang) so I need to figure that out.

Next trial is going to be the TM3 liners in the lassos I have possibly using an eliminator shim between the liner and the boot to try to take up some volume.... lets see how that goes. Might try things out locally in the poconos on weds to get a feel for ish.

 

[MrDavey2Shoes]

To continue the saga. I used the TM3's with the liner from the fuses over the weekend and it was okay. I think the hard toe on the TM3 causes some bruising on top of my toe (not toe bang) so I need to figure that out.

Next trial is going to be the TM3 liners in the lassos I have possibly using an eliminator shim between the liner and the boot to try to take up some volume.... lets see how that goes. Might try things out locally in the poconos on weds to get a feel for ish.

go.to.a.boot.fitter.