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#42 ·
Sudden_Death said:
For knees I really like the Black Diamond TeleKneesis pads. They are really low profile with a hard shell and stay in place very well.
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I use the Black Diamond TeleKneesis pads after my first hard fall onto my knees, and had them for 5+ years now and still working wonderfully. They are wonderful as low bulk but hardshell so very protective and the straps that hold them in place never loosens. I prefer these to compression type knee pads as I feel like compression/pull over kneepads limit my movement.

For protection, I've crashed hard onto a metal rail with these and it definitely saved my knees.

Obviously, if you land laterally at a weird angle, it doesn't cover the sides, but for a hard fall to the side, you will probably hit your hip (or shoulder) the hardest rather than your knees. Knees are hit hard when falling forward.

Vital said:
Well, both will probably be going back.

G-Form elbow pads - as a few people mentioned I got a size up since they fit very tight. I really shouldn't have one that. Whatever size was recomended per my measurments would be a much better fit. As for g-form pad itself - it's no hard cap offcourse but it does "dull" the strike feel. Don't think it'll save me from a hard fall but it'll probably make it just a bit less painfull.

Level Super Pipes - Beautiful gloves but wristguard protection seems to be VERY minimal. My wrist moves each and every way all the way. That little tiny piece that's supposed to protect my wrist just doesnt seem to do anything simply due to it's small size. Given I've already hurt my wrist last season I'd be much better off if there was a lot more limit as to how much my wrist can actually move.

Since both Xsport and Demon have no question asked return policies I've already ordered Demon Flexmeter gloves with built-in double sided wrist guard and Demon D30 soft cap Pro elbow quard. I'll compare both items side by side and will have to choose which ones I'm sending back for a refund and which ones I'll trust to keep me healthy this season. đź‘Ť
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Are elbow pads necessary? I feel like it is pretty rare to land on your elbow.

I really do like the Level gloves, but I agree that it is only mild protection compared to the bulkier more intense options. If doing a lot of crazy park stuff or if you do really highspeed riding, probably something more protective would be much safer. But for me and my normal riding, I like the decreased bulk and I feel like it provides sufficient protection for the falls I've experienced.
 
#43 ·
For whatever it's worth, I've been wearing a set of POC "joint vpd system" knee pads, and - in terms of fit and feel - I really like them. They fit very well, are confirming, and I forget I even have them on.

Have not had a chance to "test them out" yet, so can't speak to protection, but if the VPD works as well as the pads fit, I will be glad...


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#44 ·
After some light research I've went for Black Diamond Telekneesis Knee Pads. They are out of stock in the UK and ordered them from France. They are in demand apparently.

This thread has been very helpful. Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts.

Will try to provide some feedback when I get a chance to test them.
 
#45 ·
money4me247 said:
Are elbow pads necessary? I feel like it is pretty rare to land on your elbow.
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Ok, so here you have my elbow "injury".
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From top to bottom:
1) Right after an accident.
2) Right after surgery.
3) Just to remind you all how complex the elbow joint is. Think about what happens to ligaments (on the left) when this one bone go up so high :) And think about how many muscles and tendons are connected in that elbow joint.

I was covering my face with forearm, because if not, my face would be smashed on a tree. At least that's how I remeber it ;)

So, which elbow protector would save my other elbow in case of that type accident? :)
 
#47 ·
Nasty!! If anyone is looking to pad up I would look to the mountain bike industry. They are light years ahead of snow sports in minimally intrusive protection. I am found of Fox’s D3O pads. The knee pads are hardly noticeable when pedaling so I’m sure you would forget they are there while snowboarding. The knee pads have save me multiple time on the bike trail. I will be wearing them the next time I’m out on the board.

i was going to bring them on this trip however forgot to through them in the bag. Regret set it when I lost my balance while standing still on hard pack and went straight to the knees. It just stung a little but would have been a non-issue with the knee pads.
 
#49 ·
Hmmm....my bone was broken because, I guess all power hits in one point of the bone.
But If there were hard pad, then the pad will get all power in one point, but my bone will get power spreaded thru all length of pad, isn't?
 
#50 ·
I know people running a full Dainese armor. They do the same only for the forearms. It would definitely protect against trees. It's probably very noticeable, but won't change your ride I think. Used to wear one in DH, I didn't because of it (just because of lack of skills).
 
#51 ·
rhotax said:
Hmmm....my bone was broken because, I guess all power hits in one point of the bone.
But If there were hard pad, then the pad will get all power in one point, but my bone will get power spreaded thru all length of pad, isn't?
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Yes, aside from absorbing the hit, a lot of armor is also about spreading the impact across a larger surface area so there's no point force on your bone(s).
 
#53 ·
I use Burton knee pads, they do an admirable job and I forget they're there until I plop down on my knees on piste and remember that would have been a terrible idea without them. They stay exactly where I put them and are invisible even under my mid layer alone.
 
#54 · (Edited)
Ok, now let's talk serious :>
I saw this video
And I just don't give a f, about "breathability", etc. NO COMPROMISES. I just want to know which has better protection. D3o or G-FORM.

To you've seen test like in that video but with D3o pads? With SPECIFIC final protudct, not with some "orange glue over finger"?

UPDATE
Ok, so that's the real test, and it's dissapointed :/
 
#55 ·
Ok, so now I pissed-off :mad:
I bought some elbow protectors with d3o Race Face.
I have skateboard elbow pads, similar to this skateboard pads
I did some tests at home.
AND THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT!
I feel pain in d3o in situations when I don't feel pain in "skateboard pads"! And the difference is huge!

They are useles! All this babble about advanced technologies, etc. BULLSHIT! It's just marketing and manipulations :/

I feel so... naive :/
 
#56 ·
More important than the material is the placement of the padding and how it is held in place during an event.

I don’t have experience with Race Face products, however the Fox pads that I have mentioned have earned my respect on several hard hits on (well off) a mountain bike.

With the way d30 kinetically activates it may be difficult to replicate the impact of a crash.
 
#57 ·
But, did you do a "comparison test" with something "non d3o"?

"More important than the material is the placement of the padding and how it is held in place during an event. "
No, in my tests, everything were like it should be and it doesn't help d3o to be less painful.

"it may be difficult to replicate the impact of a crash."
I hit the wall with proper force. You my say... like the Muay Thai elbow hit ;)
Also I did a push up position and then drop to the floor on elbows.

And the d3o did activate (I felt it)... but it didn't protect against the pain. I felt pain in my bone! I would say this pain was... scary. I was afraid that if I hit little harder - the bone will crack :/

In "skateboard pads" I felt nothing! Nothing in my elbow. I just felt vibrations thru my body. But not the pain in elbow joint or forarm bone. And I could hit the wall with way more power than with the d3o :/
 
#58 ·
rhotax said:
In "skateboard pads" I felt nothing! Nothing in my elbow. I just felt vibrations thru my body. But not the pain in elbow joint or forarm bone. And I could hit the wall with way more power than with the d3o :/
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How big are these skateboard pads?

are you talking about vert pads? Those things are huge. And yes they will offer more cushion than a non-Newtonian material. The concept of these pads is that they are smaller and less invasive.
 
#59 ·
Size? Well, something like in the link above. In length, smaller than the size of the d3o in the Race Face.

"The concept of these pads is that they are smaller and less invasive."
The concept of the protective gear should be - more protective AT FIRST.
 
#60 ·
I've been using the Demon D30 V4 top and shorts, and they put a layer of foam on the inside of the D30 for most of those pads. This adds protection on hits and I haven't felt any "in my bones" like you describe. However, this does make their gear more bulky and a lot hotter than ones that are just D30. I'm not using their knee pads (I still have my soft Burton ones), so I don't know if they add this layer to their knee pads.
 
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