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Burton Deep Daze

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#1 · (Edited)
Me:
6' 2"
200 lbs. in the wet, probably 220 lbs. with gear/avi pack

The Deck:
159cm
Burton Cartel X bindings
Burton Photon Boa boots

tl;dr: Good pow board.

Just put this thing through the paces in the Canadian Rockies. All backcountry. Some tight trees, small-ish pillows, fallen trees, a bit of alpine. 1-2 feet of fresh pow on top of waist-deep pow base. Deeper in some areas. Powder was up to thighs in some areas while on the board, but step off and you'd sink up to your waist. So I wasn't testing this at a resort by any means, but I did ride it in Tahoe at Northstar and Palisades before hitting deeper snow in B.C.

Super surfy. Very nimble. Relatively stable. Turns easily. It's a smooth board. Definitely shines in powder. Not amazing in firmer snow or on groomers, but it's not made for that. I'm riding it at the reference stance, +15/-6. Board does most of the work. Floats easily. Nose just lifts right up out of the snow and if it does dip down, the board handles it without blinking. Stiffness is damn near perfect for my taste. Took a few waxes to get the base up to speed.

Only possible issue is Burton only offers three sizes, with 159 being the largest. And with my size and riding style, the board can feel a bit twitchy and squirrely. Almost like trying to ride on a balance beam. Especially in athletic terrain with lots of pillows and downed trees. When coming over a steep roller and you hit the transition, the board can almost dart out from under you if you aren't careful. A larger size, like a 162 would fix this.

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Discussion starter · #3 ·
What Camera did you use on these Pics? Epic never forget conditions.
Thanks. First one is from someone's iPhone. Second one is a frame from a video I took with an Insta360 X3. I've got a bunch of decent videos from the trip. Here's another shot from a pow day in Tahoe a few weeks ago.

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Discussion starter · #6 ·
I got one and sold it before I used it because I was pretty sure it was going to be too small. (6’3”, 200 lbs, size 12 feet). Looked like fun though. What other pow boards are you comparing to?
A few Arbor and Jones boards, forget which ones; Orca; Salomon Takahara (I do like this one too); Flight Attendant. I'm probably forgetting one. I'd like to try the Burton Double Dog for bigger/faster lines. And I have a Salomon Louif Paradis I haven't tried yet.
 
Discussion starter · #7 · (Edited)
Not sure if these work here but here are some vids:


 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Hey what size are your boots? I am looking at this board but i've got size 11....worried about heel/toe drag.
11.5 No issues for me. But depending on your specific bindings/boots you might need a little more angle go get more clearance.

That said, I rode a bunch of other pow boards last season and while this is a great board, they really do need a larger size for me to keep riding it. At least a 160, if not a 162.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
Thanks for the reply! Yeah I’m 185lbs dry so at the upper weight range also. I’ve got a 161W Endeavour Archetype now for my pow board but want something that is more turny and better float.
Salomon Taka is pretty rad. Very surfy and floats great. Only problem for me with it is the nose is very soft and the board can flex a little too easily if you weight your front foot too much.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
Since first riding the Deep Daze, I'll update my experience with this: It's a good board, but they don't make one large enough for me. I'm 6' 2" and close to 215 lbs. with all the gear, if not more (boots, clothing, pack w/shovel, probe, etc.). The 159 just isn't large enough. It feels a little like I'm riding on a balance beam and a bit twitchy. I've ridden a few other pow boards in the last season or two that I like more. Currently, the United Shapes Deep Reach is my favorite. Just did a few days with it on a heli trip and it's great. They make them in larger sizes. It's got a nice stiff nose so it won't collapse in gnarly terrain, you can set the bindings wayyyyyy back if that's your thing, but the ref. stance is already set back plenty. The board is built well. And it feels nice and locked in when you need it and also surfy as hell when you want that too. I'm taking it to AK in a week (Chugach), along with the Cadet and my all-around favorite board, the Salomon HPS Louif.
 
Discussion starter · #29 · (Edited)
I'm 6'3 230lb and the 159 works great soooo
Then keep riding it.

It's not a volume-shifted board and 260mm waist is on the narrow side for someone over 6' who would have a 11.5+ foot. The ref. stance on the 159 is 53cm, so they've designed it around a smaller rider. I ride a 57cm stance. So widening out on the 159 makes the nose disappear a bit. Again... not the best option for me. If it works for you, awesome. After a full season in the Kooteney's, I found the board a bit on the squirrely/twitchy side. When I wrote the initial review, it was the best pow board I had ridden. I'm just updating my experience after riding some othe comparable boards.