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Calling all flagship crew! (Need help with sizing)

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#1 · (Edited)
Hey Folks,

Me:
Male, 42 yo, 6’1”, 185-95 lbs, 10.5 boot, 30 years experience, aggressive all mountain rider looking for a powder board/rocket ship quiver board

My story:
It’s been dumping in Lake Tahoe this season so I recently borrowed my brother’s Carbon Flagship in a 163w and loved it. I want my own. Normally I would have bought the Ultra in a 165w and be done with it, but I recently discovered this season that I’ve been riding in the wrong boot size my whole life. I now wear a 10.5 in a K2 Maysis.

This is giving me pause.

All of my boards have been a wide or mid-wide since forever. Would I be happier with a Flagship in a 164? Jones recommends a 164 up to a size 11. My one complaint with the 163w is that I wish it was a little longer, but I'm not sure 164 is going to be noticably different. A 165w would be a little longer and since this is a powder board first and a rocket ship second, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just go for the wider sizing anyway. I do understand the newer flagships have a bit more setback available so the length might be a non-issue.

Since it’s a pricey board, I’d rather not get this one wrong! Anybody in the 10-11 boot range riding one width over another? Would really appreciate your insight.

Thanks!

P.S.
Bonus round: Has anybody ridden both the carbon flagship and the ultra flagship? Which did you find to be lighter and which to be stiffer?
 
#2 ·
I've ridden the 162w in the Flagship. I'm a little bit bigger than you (6'3", 195lbs) but wear US10 boots. I'd definitely get the wide in the Flagship so I didn't have to worry about boot out at all. Jones boards run rather narrow and with the taper on that board the tail can kick out pretty easily if you're on ice and bump your heel or toe. Even on the wide sizes the tail width is less than 30cm, and 30cm is when I stop worrying. And with the spoon base you don't feel the width as much when turning so wide sizes are an easy call for me there.

The 162w was a rocket though, with the 9.3m sidecut it just wants to go straight and fast. The 165w would be something I'd only make use of on certain runs on big mountains - like Whistler or Baker around here. I haven't been to Tahoe in a decade, but if you're at Heavenly or Pallisades (did they change the name?) you've got room for a 165w.

If I wanted a board to just blast over everything all the time the 165w would be a lot of fun. But if I wanted a bit more versatility the 162w would be a board I could feasibly ride all day.
 
#5 ·
Bonus round: Has anybody ridden both the carbon flagship and the ultra flagship? Which did you find to be lighter and which to be stiffer?
I did. My '20 Carbon was a lot damper than the first-year '21 Ultra, which felt a lot stiffer and harsher through chops. I kept the Carbon and passed on the Ultra. I hear the addition of power plates in later model Ultras improved the dampening and rides smoother now.

AFAIK the Ultra/Carbon editions weren't their attempts at making SL versions of the regular model, although the use of lighter material probably resulted in some weight savings. But it's not really noticeable IRL.
 
#6 ·
You guys are awesome!! Not even Jones customer service could give me some of the info I was looking for.

Big thanks to everybody who shared their input/experience. Since this is a quiver board, I'm fine with it being a little less versatile. I have a mountain twin for trees/daily driver resort riding so I'm gonna grab the 165w. Cheers!