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Discussion starter · #21 ·
No, definitely no heel lift, the ankle is really locked in. It’s just not as tight up top. The lowest part of the upper boa is really tight, so the upper part of the upper boa just doesn‘t get as tight. It’s like I need to squeeze some of that foam upwards.

I like having the top of the tongue tight against my tibia for better response.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
I haven’t, but that is something to consider. I’m not sure it would be very helpful below the boa knobs, but there’s not much boot above them.

I’m kinda hoping that it packs out a bit around my instep, allowing the upper part to get tighter. It’s not bad, but it could be better.
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I got the strapins. Intuition makes them as well, but I went with the recommendation here.

It helps, but doesn’t really work like I thought it would. I was hoping to add support between the boa straps, but it wants to slide down to where they cross over, which is the narrowest part of the boot. It does keep that area nice and snug though, allowing the boa to loosen up a bit over the instep.
 
Interesting, I don't have the slide down problem, but I only have 2 boa knobs.

How are you liking the Pro Tour HV liner? I'm in need of some more volume-sucking liners for my chicken legs.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
The Pro Tour HV is good, but if you had the option I'd probably go with the full stiff tongue.

With just the 2 boa knobs, you might look at the Dreamliner HV, as it would have a more material around the articulation/instep. I tried the medium volume that was in stock. It wasn't enough, but it was a really nice liner.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
End of season update…

I did heat mold them again myself. I put the boot dryer on heat with 2 hoses in each boot for 30 min and it worked. Over the next 25 days it did pack out around the instep and got more comfortable.

I did start using a strapin power strap right above the instep. I would’ve liked to go higher, but it would slide down. It didn’t add any tightness over the boa, but did allow the instep & top of boot to loosen up a bit riding, while keeping it tight and supportive just above the ankle.

I doubt I’ll get another 50 days out of the Thraxis shells.
 
I appreciate the update.

I tried a couple K2 liners on my Ortons this season (now on 100+ days) and couldn't get it 100% happy for me (not too tight on my instep, but still have enough support/response above the ankle). I think I'm going to give this HV liner a try next season.
 
My feet froze in Ride Insanos last year (size 8). This year I got the Thraxis in size 8.5. They fit great fresh, but after 15 or so days they’re packing out. I should be in an 8.

My main issue is the ankle bone which even got a little bruised today. There’s almost no cushion in that teal part so it kinda hits the side of the boot. Should I add some foam around the teal bit, over it, or both?

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I don’t like the conda over my arch either, so I’m not running that very tight.

Hopefully it’ll warm up soon and I can wear the Insanos more regularly. For the future, I’m not sure if I’ll eventually try the Thraxis in an 8, or try something else.

Last year the boot fitter said an 8 was a performance fit, I think he was right. According to my foot scan I could go even smaller, but I can’t see that working with my arches & i
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Dude I worked with in the park Had insanoes and I remember him saying a few times that he had to go in to let his feet warm up.
 
Dude I worked with in the park Had insanoes and I remember him saying a few times that he had to go in to let his feet warm up. downfall of a low profile boot?
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
Reduced footprint to some extent, but it depends on the materials (insulation). I think a bigger factor is the thickness of the outsole, which gets you up off the frozen stuff. I don’t need to feel everything underfoot… I like some dampening and warmth!
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
I’m not keen on how they designed the tongue/tibia support… there’s this huge gap that could really use more lacing (for me):

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Discussion starter · #34 ·
It could be more snug around my leg… it’s not that it’s loose, it just allows it to flex/bulge a bit. But I’m fussy.
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
That’s a good question, I don’t recall noticing it initially. I’m not talking huge bulges, but I can feel the tension where the laces are and it’s not a consistently snug wrap. After about 10 days I actually added a layer of foam to the upper tongue to make it a little more snug up top.

I like my leg supported so that it articulates with the boot rather than moving inside it.
 
That’s a good question, I don’t recall noticing it initially. I’m not talking huge bulges, but I can feel the tension where the laces are and it’s not a consistently snug wrap. After about 10 days I actually added a layer of foam to the upper tongue to make it a little more snug up top.

I like my leg supported so that it articulates with the boot rather than moving inside it.
Over the years I’ve put different liners in different boots and I ultimately concluded that it’s never really been a true fix in snowboard boots for me. What I experienced, every time, is that while it might fix a comfort issue, it causes the shell to fit the liner differently which has inevitably caused the shell to perform differently (usually more articulation and undesirable creases, often the shell either stretches too much to compensate or finds limitations, etc.). One change can have unintended negative consequences, and that’s been my experience with switching liners. For this reason, I prefer to doctor up existing liners rather than getting aftermarket liners. Plus, if the aftermarket liners were originally developed for ski boots, it’s not always going to work in a snowboard boot.
That’s why I was wondering if you noticed it before switching the liner. I have no idea if this is the case with your setup, but it’s food for thought.
Have you considered getting a smaller size? 🤷‍♂️
 
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