Anyone know how the TLS works out. Likes, dislikes. I liked the speed lace on the driver x, but they are done now, and have been using 32 tm2s with traditional lace(I like these a lot and would fall back on them if I don't change it up) for 3 seasons and been thinking about another pair
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hi there, i didnt said i will go for 27.5....as long as i know the Nitro are relative narrow. If its so, and they are snug all around i do not need to downsize for a couple o mm i hoe. Until now all the boots i had were relative mid wide (Vans, Adidas, Altai, Salomon...)
i just wrote what Nitro (officially) `said...i really do not know 100% if its so
Why except Vans ? as far as i know (and experienced) vans is not the best for downsizing
btw i will make a try and go in the afternoon to a ski shop near us, to check my MP electronically....i always come with 27.7 - 27.8 but want to be 100% sure
However i am curius to check the lengt of the 9.5 and 10.0. Theoretically if the shells are 1:1 with the liners, there must be a 0.5 cm difference. OR i miss something?
In my experience Vans, like Nitro, are shorter than other brands. In most boots I can fit a 275 mondo with my 275 mm feet. With Nitro and Vans it is impossible. I mean this purely in the length of the boot. My big toe is the longest part of my foot. Of course some other brands don't fit me well due to the overall shape but in this case I am talking only about the length. This information is not absolute or superior to any other that you have access to, just my experience, that I hope may be of some use to you 
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yes indeed...my big toe is also the longest part of my foot. I suppose thats why the Vans in 42.5 was such a bad experience and lead to two black nails.
But do you think has with the length to do, or with the shape? e.g. the Nitro or Vans are definitiv not shorter as the Adidas in 27.5, but however i am relativ ok with them
my vans from 2010 were more curvig round the toes, the Vans Verse was more pointed, like they are for people who the longest part ist the second toe.
But do you think has with the length to do, or with the shape? e.g. the Nitro or Vans are definitiv not shorter as the Adidas in 27.5, but however i am relativ ok with them
my vans from 2010 were more curvig round the toes, the Vans Verse was more pointed, like they are for people who the longest part ist the second toe.
Yeah could be the shape at the front. My Vans Infuse are round, so longest in the middle. That means an overall shorter boot (inside) for me in my "correct" size. Or go up in size to fit and get a much bigger footprint (outside). Maybe Nitro is the same. It doesn't really matter, as I now know that neither Nitro or Vans work for me so my life just got easier when it comes to the unpleasant task of trying to find boots that work. (I must remember to put my Infuse up for sale).
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pfui...i had an order for the Nitro and one for K2....unfortunately the k2 is cancelled because of a system failure. The boots were not available. I hope that at least one of the nitro will fit otherwise i do not have any more options. I think only Nidecker didnt try till now.
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so....
I found the exact opposite from what this email says, in some YouTube videos.
In the Good Ride video "Nitro Team TLS Review 2025", a comment states:
"I just heard back from my contact at Nitro, and all Nitro boot shells are one size. The 9 and 9.5 have the same shell, and that goes for all sizes. 10 shares the same shell as 10.5, 11 the same as 11.5, and so on."
And even more extreme, someone mentioned:
This means that size 9.5 shares the same shell as 9, while size 10 uses the same shell as 10.5.
In the video "Nitro Boots - The Ultimate Fit", @NitroSnowboardsOfficial says:
"The shell size changes every full size, while the liner changes every half size."
However this is three years old
For me, with feet between 9.5 and 10.0, this is a disaster (if the 10.0 has the shell of 10.5)—but maybe it’s useful information for anyone considering Nitro boots.
I can’t say for sure whether this is 100% accurate.
I found the exact opposite from what this email says, in some YouTube videos.
In the Good Ride video "Nitro Team TLS Review 2025", a comment states:
"I just heard back from my contact at Nitro, and all Nitro boot shells are one size. The 9 and 9.5 have the same shell, and that goes for all sizes. 10 shares the same shell as 10.5, 11 the same as 11.5, and so on."
And even more extreme, someone mentioned:
- Size 9: 30.2 cm (3.2 cm over Mondo Point)
- Size 9.5: 30.2 cm (2.7 cm over Mondo Point)
- Size 10: 31.8 cm (3.8 cm over Mondo Point)
- Size 10.5: 31.8 cm (3.3 cm over Mondo Point)
This means that size 9.5 shares the same shell as 9, while size 10 uses the same shell as 10.5.
In the video "Nitro Boots - The Ultimate Fit", @NitroSnowboardsOfficial says:
"The shell size changes every full size, while the liner changes every half size."
However this is three years old
For me, with feet between 9.5 and 10.0, this is a disaster (if the 10.0 has the shell of 10.5)—but maybe it’s useful information for anyone considering Nitro boots.
I can’t say for sure whether this is 100% accurate.
Dude, I will try for the last time.
That is exactly what I have been saying repeatedly. 9 and 9.5 are the same boot. 10 is way larger. Don’t waste your time with Nitro boots as they won’t work if you want a performance fit and have feet that are not bang on a whole size.
I had them all in my hands side by side and on my feet two weeks ago in a shop. The shop guy also confirmed that Nitro do this with shells.
That is exactly what I have been saying repeatedly. 9 and 9.5 are the same boot. 10 is way larger. Don’t waste your time with Nitro boots as they won’t work if you want a performance fit and have feet that are not bang on a whole size.
I had them all in my hands side by side and on my feet two weeks ago in a shop. The shop guy also confirmed that Nitro do this with shells.
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According to what they mentioned its maybe worst than you said...at least for me...the 9.5 with the shell of a 9.0 is too small, but the 10 if its has the 10.5 shell its ok for someone with feet from 28.0 till 28.3...not under 28.0
i mean with feet 27.7 the shell of a 10.5 will be toooo much....
At least i cant sent them back free...
i mean with feet 27.7 the shell of a 10.5 will be toooo much....
At least i cant sent them back free...
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mostly out of curiosity i ordered the two pairs of Nitro Venture TLS and tested them a bit at home. Quality-wise, they make a really good impression—much better than Burton. They’re definitely not as stiff as their 7/10 rating suggests, but that’s another story.
What I found strange, though:
As @Kevington mentioned above its exactly so....outsole length of the 27.5 is about 30.1–30.2 cm (roughly a 2.6 cm difference), while the 28.0 measures around 31.1–31.2 cm (more than a 3 cm difference). Normally, the length difference should be 1 cm between full sizes, not between half sizes. This suggests that Nitro uses the same outsole for both whole and half sizes. the 27.5 shares the same shell as the 27.0—and so on (just my guess). But i think that the half size has the shell from the exact size before : the 9.5 has the shell from 9.0, the 10.5 from 10.0 etc. At least for TLS Venture..
The insoles are TINY—really small. The insole of the 28.0 was actually smaller than that of the Burton Photon in 27.5 or the Adidas Tactical ADV in 27.5, which surprised me. Additionally, the boots are relatively tapered—not as extreme as I expected, but still noticeably narrower in the toe area compared to other models I’ve owned or tested.
Unfortunately, the 27.5 was way too small for me , musch smaller as the 27.5 Burton Photon, while the 28.0 felt really comfortable—so comfortable that I’m afraid they might become too loose after 2–3 days of riding. And while many people claim Nitro boots are made for narrow feet, I can’t really confirm that. In my opinion, they’re not that narrow.
It’s a shame because the quality of Nitro really impressed me.
What I found strange, though:
As @Kevington mentioned above its exactly so....outsole length of the 27.5 is about 30.1–30.2 cm (roughly a 2.6 cm difference), while the 28.0 measures around 31.1–31.2 cm (more than a 3 cm difference). Normally, the length difference should be 1 cm between full sizes, not between half sizes. This suggests that Nitro uses the same outsole for both whole and half sizes. the 27.5 shares the same shell as the 27.0—and so on (just my guess). But i think that the half size has the shell from the exact size before : the 9.5 has the shell from 9.0, the 10.5 from 10.0 etc. At least for TLS Venture..
The insoles are TINY—really small. The insole of the 28.0 was actually smaller than that of the Burton Photon in 27.5 or the Adidas Tactical ADV in 27.5, which surprised me. Additionally, the boots are relatively tapered—not as extreme as I expected, but still noticeably narrower in the toe area compared to other models I’ve owned or tested.
Unfortunately, the 27.5 was way too small for me , musch smaller as the 27.5 Burton Photon, while the 28.0 felt really comfortable—so comfortable that I’m afraid they might become too loose after 2–3 days of riding. And while many people claim Nitro boots are made for narrow feet, I can’t really confirm that. In my opinion, they’re not that narrow.
It’s a shame because the quality of Nitro really impressed me.
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update: i stand corrected, it looks like the 25/26 catalogue has boa for all but the top 2 mens boots (https://golgoda.com/PDF/25-26 NITRO.pdf). it looks like they are at least doing tls & boa for some of the higher end boots (i was using the select) and tls/boa/laces for the mid/lower range. may be worth a look if you/your feet like nitro boots but dislike tls ...
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Some late feedback on the topic just for the sake of it. I used to rock ´13 Team TLS boots and recently bought '25 El Mejor TLS boots.
The Teams were pretty damn good but I noticed, to an increasing degree toward the end of their lifetime, that the upper TLS lacing started to come off on my back foot.
The '25 El Mejors have the new TLS+ lacing system without moving parts. So far so good, but I've only ridden them two days. We'll see how much it eats the laces...
Apart from these two, I've tried on a number of different Nitro boots throughout the years and I can say that the fit varies A LOT between the models. Most models are narrow, but the El Mejors and the Slects are wider. More Nitro comparisons: The '25 Selects fits comparably to my El Mejors, but are heavier and feel clunky. I couldn't even get my foot into 29.0 Ventures because they were so narrow.
My feet are 284/286mm (and super weird: fat toes, wide front foot, high instep, high arch, narrow heel, skinny ankles) and my previous boots were 28.5 wide Burton Photons. Both Nitros have been size 29.0. We'll see how much the El Mejors pack out. They're definitely MUCH bigger than my Photons.
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The Teams were pretty damn good but I noticed, to an increasing degree toward the end of their lifetime, that the upper TLS lacing started to come off on my back foot.
The '25 El Mejors have the new TLS+ lacing system without moving parts. So far so good, but I've only ridden them two days. We'll see how much it eats the laces...
Apart from these two, I've tried on a number of different Nitro boots throughout the years and I can say that the fit varies A LOT between the models. Most models are narrow, but the El Mejors and the Slects are wider. More Nitro comparisons: The '25 Selects fits comparably to my El Mejors, but are heavier and feel clunky. I couldn't even get my foot into 29.0 Ventures because they were so narrow.
My feet are 284/286mm (and super weird: fat toes, wide front foot, high instep, high arch, narrow heel, skinny ankles) and my previous boots were 28.5 wide Burton Photons. Both Nitros have been size 29.0. We'll see how much the El Mejors pack out. They're definitely MUCH bigger than my Photons.
/rant
This info is accurate.
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thought so...i tried them and i think the 9.5 was toooo small...
However i finally got a pair of Burton Driver X in 9.5 and this chapter is closed for me (at least for one-two seasons)
Hey Turms,
Sorry were only jumping on this thread now, wish we had spotted this earlier.
The volume of our boots is a little smaller than others. Therefore good for narrow feet. To solve the issue of the toe box, we suggest to do a proper heat mold with a toe cap. The toe cap will give a few more mm of space around the toe box area.
IMPORTANT:
- When heat molding our boots we recommend to not use an Intuition oven or your oven at home. You'll need to use a blower system.
- Take out the footbeds when heating the liner. Then, re-insert the footbed when you put the boots on for the heat mold.
Your local shop should be able to take care of all of this.
Hope this helps,
Andrew
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Sorry were only jumping on this thread now, wish we had spotted this earlier.
The volume of our boots is a little smaller than others. Therefore good for narrow feet. To solve the issue of the toe box, we suggest to do a proper heat mold with a toe cap. The toe cap will give a few more mm of space around the toe box area.
IMPORTANT:
- When heat molding our boots we recommend to not use an Intuition oven or your oven at home. You'll need to use a blower system.
- Take out the footbeds when heating the liner. Then, re-insert the footbed when you put the boots on for the heat mold.
Your local shop should be able to take care of all of this.
Hope this helps,
Andrew
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Hi Andrew,
the problem is that i do not have someone to do it...i usually buy all staff on line.
However even so, the 10.0 was definitely too big for me, and the 9.5 i think it was to small in the lenght...even with heat molding...on the other hand i managed to pass in the 9.5 Burton which have also a length of around 30.2 i think....
the problem is that i do not have someone to do it...i usually buy all staff on line.
However even so, the 10.0 was definitely too big for me, and the 9.5 i think it was to small in the lenght...even with heat molding...on the other hand i managed to pass in the 9.5 Burton which have also a length of around 30.2 i think....
Hi Turms,
Fully understand, well done on making the research.
As for the heat molding some shops will offer heat molding as a service. It might cost a little but it will make a difference.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions.
Enjoy
Fully understand, well done on making the research.
As for the heat molding some shops will offer heat molding as a service. It might cost a little but it will make a difference.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions.
Enjoy
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Thanks Andrew,
since i already used the Burton and i cannot send them Back i have to stay with them for a while.
But i will give a change to Nitro again, by next time. My feet are relative narrow, or better to say simple narrow...probably the Nitro are a good deal as long as i finde the right length...
since i already used the Burton and i cannot send them Back i have to stay with them for a while.
But i will give a change to Nitro again, by next time. My feet are relative narrow, or better to say simple narrow...probably the Nitro are a good deal as long as i finde the right length...
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