Do you ride switch a lot? If so, the Greats is one of, if not the best twin out there. The Uninc is a directional twin with a little more versatile stance options. It has slamback inserts that are great if you want to set all the way back for float.

As for sizing, I think you can go one size smaller for both models and trust midbite to provide extra edge grip. It's not crazy grip like magnetraction but enough without being disruptive. Also, with midbite boards the waist width will be narrower by the design of the midbite sidecut. Look at the front/rear widths instead.

 

Thanks for your feedback 👍

If I read their Sizing guideline, that say they do things differently and not follow the norms really for sizing. But I’ve never ridden I yes board but many others. The reason for asking. They say go for chin to nose length primarily. And boot size. And I am in between min/max weight range in standard Uninc for both the 159 and the 162. As well as Greats 156 and 159. And I am pretty used to riding longer boards from past experience. But, then again, have not tried a YES board before.

It is difficult to get your hands on one for testing it Scandinavia. So have to do some desktop research instead. I have asked YES. For advice, but honestly I think I would prefer a longer board than a shorter one.

 

Yeah man, not saying you won't rock on the longer sizes. If you are used to them, more power to you. 💪

If I were to choose one of the two in the longer lengths, from your description I'd pick the Standard Uninc. It's such a versatile board that can do it all. If you primarily ride twins and spin on the ground or in the air, the Greats is not to be missed but it's a twin at the end of the day. The asymmetrical sidecuts and the twin shape can make it awkward if you want to experiment with setback stances.

 

Good point regarding setback on asym geometries 👍 I plan on keeping the Burton HTH If I go with the Greats. But probably sell it if I like and go with the Standard Uninc. I will probably want a more freeride oriented board. But man, being a person looking for comfort A one board quiver is probably "my way" but the good thing is that you can always switch, replace and buy new if you don't like it. Over the past 4 years I've been switching board every season and so far the Burton HTH is my favourite. But it lacks a bit of grip on hard snow and ice, and it is a bit too directional. Its okay switch, for sure. But I realized I like going switch more than I anticipated. And you can carve as good with a twin dir twin with less or no setback. And honestly, the places I go nowadays don't offer that much fresh snow. The slam back inserts lounds like really smart solution too..

 

I am contemplating getting another board, I own the Burton Hometown Hero 160 today and i like it, but want something with more grip and endgehold for carving in the Scandinavia, where it is often hard and icy. I've been riding since the early 90's and been going to the mountains more and more now since the rest of the family got more passionate about riding as well.

I've read up on different kinds of edge tech and I've owned Ride Berzerker 164, Lib Tech T.Rice Pro 164.5 and Capita Mercury 161 before the Burton HTH. I don't play around that much in the park anymore and when I do, mostly do straight airs and the occasional 180/360. But I play around in the piste, look for side hits and just fun terrain. Mostly I enjoy turning, doing deep carves and riding with the family. But when there is "me" time, I want something that won't hold me back from going more aggressive in the piste, in the park or a tree run hittings some lips and natural jumps.

Anyways, I was thinking about sizing for Greats or Standard Uninc. I am 6'2" (187 cm) 180-185 pounds and have size US10 Burton Ion Boots. I don't mind my boards a tad wider since I go pretty deep carving.

I was without thinking that much considering the Greats Uninc in 159 and Standard Uninc 162. But am I going too big? Anyone that owns or have tried any of these boards and can give me an idea of how I should size them? Any thoughts would be highly appreciated 🙏

Not directly responding to your OP, but if you're interested in edge hold and tech, I highly recommend checking out the Rossignol XV Magtek. I rode this board for several years and it's a monster carver and pretty fun in pow. It's very quick edge-to-edge, and the nose is wide and stiff while the tail is washy and playful. It won't be playful in the park, but for most everything else you said it's pretty good. These ride shorter than their lengths in case you're seriously considering it.

 

I'm 175lbs and have ridden the 153 Standard Uninc and the Greats in a 151 & a 154 with size 9 boots. The sizes you have selected are pretty big to be honest. In the Uninc, you could probably do a 159 and be pretty comfortable and a 156 in the Greats. The waists are smaller due to the mid-bite. They feel bigger than they are, but again, if you're comfortable with oversized boards then go ahead with your sizing, but you may find them a bit sluggish. Side note, I actually prefer the underbite for carving and more aggressive riding, but the midbite is fun for more freestyle versatility and a quicker pivot.

 

Curious why your mercury didn’t match or ride how you want?

 

I wrote a post about it earlier. It is one of the most celebrated boards. But it did not agree with me at all. Difficult to turn at low speeds, wanted to stay flat, took a lot of effort to get up on edge and for skidded turns. After a while I learned to manage it but when I went for a test weekend and tested other boards, I realized I had to replace it. It simple took a lot of the fun out of riding a snowboard. Might have sized it a bit wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️ with a 161 for my 181-185 pounds, 187 cm (about 6’2”) and size US10 boots. But I don’t think so. Tested Custom X 162, Jones Flagship, Bataleon Goliath+, Burton HTH and Amplid Singular. And when I went back in my Merc it was so obvious. All the other boards were so much fun, different character and temperament but fun. The Merc was not. I really wanted to like it, but I didn’t.

My friend who rides a DOA tested mine and the first lap he shouted “what the fuck, I can’t even turn with this board!!”. So It was not only me. But hey, taste is different, you might like it?

sorry for the essay ☺

 

I wrote a post about it earlier. It is one of the most celebrated boards. But it did not agree with me at all. Difficult to turn at low speeds, wanted to stay flat, took a lot of effort to get up on edge and for skidded turns. After a while I learned to manage it but when I went for a test weekend and tested other boards, I realized I had to replace it. It simple took a lot of the fun out of riding a snowboard. Might have sized it a bit wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️ with a 161 for my 181-185 pounds, 187 cm (about 6’2”) and size US10 boots. But I don’t think so. Tested Custom X 162, Jones Flagship, Bataleon Goliath+, Burton HTH and Amplid Singular. And when I went back in my Merc it was so obvious. All the other boards were so much fun, different character and temperament but fun. The Merc was not. I really wanted to like it, but I didn’t.

My friend who rides a DOA tested mine and the first lap he shouted “what the fuck, I can’t even turn with this board!!”. So It was not only me. But hey, taste is different, you might like it?

sorry for the essay ☺

What bindings did you have mounted?

 

Burton step on regular with Ions. Same binding and boots with the other boards I tested.

 

Ahhh, I’ve heard you need stiff bindings with the Merc. I know the step ons have a bit of play. Also if you look at the effective edge from the 2019 or 2020 years, they’ve increased in length. The new Kazu looks absolutely sick!

 

I'd say the stepons are probably one of the more responsible bindings I've tried. I rode the Union Falcor before and they are supposed to be very responsive. I think the Stepons are more responsive. I have switched to the stepon X though, I like bindings and boots very responsive. I have the Burton Ions paired with them.

But the stepsons are different. Another kind of responsive. But other boards felt great with them, not the Merc. I contemplated IF that was the reason.

But if you search for it in this forum, you will find others describing the same phenomena. Anyways, I try to get something new for my setup every season and test a lot. I think that is the only way of getting what supports your riding. And now I am curious about a YES. board.😊

 

Similar Greats vs Standard post here

Deep carving will be more difficult if you size down on the Greats. It’s very easy to overpower it with the cam rock profile Vs the Standard uninc camber. With regards to sizing, I think you’re on the right track if deep carving is your jam. Im a bit smaller/shorter than you and preferred the 156 vs the 154 on the greats, and I enjoyed the Standard 159 just fine.

Curious how you liked the Singular vs your Merc?

 

I’ve been looking for a more grippy version of the HTH myself for nordic conditions. Hoped the K2 Alchemist would be it, but it wasn’t. I like the stiffer nose of the HTH much better than the flappy nose if the Alchemist. HTH is also more fun to turn, but Alchemist grips better in ice.

I’ve also been looking at the Yes Standard Uninc and Amplid Singular, but haven’t had the chance to try them. Got a hold of a used Burton Custom for cheap, so I’ll stick with that for now. Guess I might be back on the good old directional twin camber.

If you end up with the Yes Standard or Uninc, or any other board for that matter, please come back with updates. Seems like we are looking for pretty much the same type of board.

 

the Singular was great. A verry fun ride. Midwide in the 158 I tried (would have gone for the 162, but they did not have that). Compared to the Merc it was really easy to turn, fast edge to edge and easy to manoeuvre into position for jumps, in tight spots but also easy to rail a turn on. The merc just wanted to stay flat when on snow, but it pops really well. And the base, my god the base of the merc. It is soo fast. Probably one of the fastest bases I’ve tested. But what good is that if it is no fun to turn and get up on edge. I chose the HTH over the Amplid Singular because it felt a bit more aggressive. But I think in retrospect, that the Singular would have been a better choice than the HTH in retrospect. I have never had a full Burton setup before and thought that might be a good thing. And don’t get me wrong, HTH is great but I want something more twinish and resort. I thought I would get more pow but realized that I probably won’t 😅 that was wishful thinking.
My evoked set after testing about 15 boards at the beginning of last season was:

-Amplid Singular Dir 162
-Burton Custom X 162
-Burton Hometown Hero 160
-Jones Flagship 161/164

I liked them all, prone to really good turning experience, carving and straight airs in the park and sidehits (fiddling about with whatever obstacles available). I needed a board that is easy to manoeuvre when riding with the kids but can take a beating when I ride with friends and on my own.

hope that answered your question.
Ps. Sorry for the essays but I find this forum very therapeutic 😉

 

I am one of the few that did not take a liking to the Merc. You are not alone.

The other YES board you might consider is the Pick Your Line. Uninc if you can get your hands on one. They have the tapered underbite sidecut that was mentioned somewhere above. This isn't as twin-ish as the Standard but as resort freeride it is solidly one the best of the bunch.

 

I've tried the Mercury with, I think, Now bindings. I also couldn't wait to get off it. It did ok at a bit of speed and on edge, but it didn't feel anything special to me. Boards are a personal taste.

 

standard un inc is a pretty awesome all around board. Especially if you grew up riding camber. It is less catchy than older style camber boards and has some subtle features that just work. It feels pretty balanced and planted and works in most snow conditions. I like that the edge tech is relatively subtle. Some of the yes boards (like the warca) have a giant bump in the sidecut, this one is not like that.

 

I know I’m late in joining this but I can say at 5’9” and 140 lbs I feel a bit light and small for the 153 Standard Uninc but as I like speed it works really well for me

 

I'm 175lbs and have ridden the 153 Standard Uninc and the Greats in a 151 & a 154 with size 9 boots. The sizes you have selected are pretty big to be honest. In the Uninc, you could probably do a 159 and be pretty comfortable and a 156 in the Greats. The waists are smaller due to the mid-bite. They feel bigger than they are, but again, if you're comfortable with oversized boards then go ahead with your sizing, but you may find them a bit sluggish. Side note, I actually prefer the underbite for carving and more aggressive riding, but the midbite is fun for more freestyle versatility and a quicker pivot.

Since you've ridden both, which one would you say is more forgiving and can be lazy on? I'm looking at both these boards to upgrade from my Typo. I already have a Ravine Select for pow so I'm leaning more towards the Greats. But I had a Gnu Space Case at one point and didn't like it, so I'm hesitant about going asym again. Although the Gnu was CRC, rather than RCR. But the versatility of the Standard Uninc is really intriguing.

 

The Greats is far better for what you want. My brother is the one with the Greats but the board is in my size. It’s more playful and easier to ride. It’s a GREAT (lol) board to expand your abilities as rider on. It handles almost anything you throw at it (except powder) and is fun while you do it. The Standard Uninc is my weapon of choice however. On a small run the Greats can be a little more fun but the Standard is a much heavier hitter. It’s a sendier, poppier, more aggressive board. It can hold on in powder with a good rider and slam back. For one board and a hard rider I’d take the Standard everyday. For a playful board that doesn’t stop you anywhere on the mountain, the Greats is a GREAT choice! (Don’t worry about the ASYM on this board it’s awesome)

 

The Greats is far better for what you want. My brother is the one with the Greats but the board is in my size. It’s more playful and easier to ride. It’s a GREAT (lol) board to expand your abilities as rider on. It handles almost anything you throw at it (except powder) and is fun while you do it. The Standard Uninc is my weapon of choice however. On a small run the Greats can be a little more fun but the Standard is a much heavier hitter. It’s a sendier, poppier, more aggressive board. It can hold on in powder with a good rider and slam back. For one board and a hard rider I’d take the Standard everyday. For a playful board that doesn’t stop you anywhere on the mountain, the Greats is a GREAT choice! (Don’t worry about the ASYM on this board it’s awesome)

Cool, thanks for the reply. I don't do much park so I wasn't sure if it made sense to go Greats to just ride groomers and side hits. But from all the reviews I'm reading, sounds like it's GREAT everywhere lol.

 

You'd probably be happy either way, both killer boards. Greats for a more freestyle focus, Standard for a touch more freeride/pow focus.

 

This is exactly right. The Standard Uninc is surprisingly playful, but definitely more freeride oriented. One disclaimer is that I found a 154 Greats a little too big, the 153 Standard Uninc was perfect for my specs. The 151 Greats was a lot of fun and would be the choice for what you describe, but choose your size for your own specs though. I love the Typo as well and actually upgraded to the Basic Uninc this year to replace that.

 

since were on the topic of greats vs standard.. I am also looking at these two boards for this upcoming season and its been so long since I bought a board.
id like some suggestions.

My plan is to go to whistler and hit mostly tree runs! some packed down but I also go through powder In the tree runs, lots of tight turns , Ill also hit park and powder but not as much.

which of these boards would give me a better experience in the trees. Im 5,10 190 lb so i'm curious about sizing as well for both

 

Honestly, neither is a "tree board" both more all mountain as has been said but they both can be used there. The Standard will do fine though especially if you have larger feet and has setback inserts as it gets deeper.

 

I’d do the Standard personally. How big are your feet?

 

Standard is a better all mountain board. On the Greats you’re committed to riding centered and if you’re not going to ride switch …. Not much of a point.

Sizing depends where you’re going to ride and what you want from it. I’d probably look at 159/62

 

I'm about the same size and ride the 159 although I could go a size up if I needed it to do better in pow. Just watch the width, the underfoot width is pretty wide so it can feel a bit big depending on your foot size. I'm a 12 and the 159 feels great.

 

Honestly, neither is a "tree board" both more all mountain as has been said but they both can be used there. The Standard will do fine though especially if you have larger feet and has setback inserts as it gets deeper.

Yeah, I bet your ravine will be better in the trees. I've got a friend who rides a standard in the trees a lot and he does fine. He generally has the bindings slammed all the way back.

I appreciate having a less twin shape in the there. Short tails have an easier time clearing trees you've just passed, which lets you take tighter lines between them. Shorter tails also sink easier which puts on the brakes. Longer noses have an easier time busting through uneven snow.

 

I’ve been looking for a more grippy version of the HTH myself for nordic conditions. Hoped the K2 Alchemist would be it, but it wasn’t. I like the stiffer nose of the HTH much better than the flappy nose if the Alchemist. HTH is also more fun to turn, but Alchemist grips better in ice.

I’ve also been looking at the Yes Standard Uninc and Amplid Singular, but haven’t had the chance to try them. Got a hold of a used Burton Custom for cheap, so I’ll stick with that for now. Guess I might be back on the good old directional twin camber.

If you end up with the Yes Standard or Uninc, or any other board for that matter, please come back with updates. Seems like we are looking for pretty much the same type of board.

Hi,

Yeah man, not saying you won't rock on the longer sizes. If you are used to them, more power to you. 💪

If I were to choose one of the two in the longer lengths, from your description I'd pick the Standard Uninc. It's such a versatile board that can do it all. If you primarily ride twins and spin on the ground or in the air, the Greats is not to be missed but it's a twin at the end of the day. The asymmetrical sidecuts and the twin shape can make it awkward if you want to experiment with setback stances.

Hi, reviving this thread since I am contemplating pulling the trigger on a Yes standard uninc. But after reading up on it a bit and testing even more boards on demo. I am thinking about the 159, rather than the 162. Realised that it will be too big.

Anyways, I would appreciate some input on the width. I use us10 burton ions. Do you think it will be difficult to turn/get up on edge? I weight enough, right in the middle of the weight range. But it has 27.7 cm underfoot at reference and that is pretty much my foot length. (27.5 to be exact) I will probably not Rise reference but closer to 58 cm. So it Will be slightly narrower under foot. But anyways..

 

Hi,


Hi, reviving this thread since I am contemplating pulling the trigger on a Yes standard uninc. But after reading up on it a bit and testing even more boards on demo. I am thinking about the 159, rather than the 162. Realised that it will be too big.

Anyways, I would appreciate some input on the width. I use us10 burton ions. Do you think it will be difficult to turn/get up on edge? I weight enough, right in the middle of the weight range. But it has 27.7 cm underfoot at reference and that is pretty much my foot length. (27.5 to be exact) I will probably not Rise reference but closer to 58 cm. So it Will be slightly narrower under foot. But anyways..

Previously owned a 159 Standard and rode fine with my size 10 boots/medium Union bindings.