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Stance Setup Question

3.3K views 8 replies 9 participants last post by  wrathfuldeity  
#1 ·
Possibly dumb question but...

I have a ride shadowban, a directional twin with some setback (10mm i think), and a ref stance that is a bit too wide. I use burton re-flex bindings which is just a few holes in the disk, not a channel. if i want to move the stance tighter, is it better to move the front back on the insert pack, making the board more directional, or back up, making it more twin, or overthinking entirely?

this is more out of curiousity and how it affects performance, thinking the sidecut and ref stance were designed to work together, and does moving the back forward change the grip /turning dynamics out of the tail, or similar differences with the front bindings back? had a few days on it at the end of last season and moved the back forward, worked fine but back end felt more lose vs when i tried it at ref.
 
#8 ·
There’s no rule. Try both and see what you like. Unlike the suggestion above, I like to keep my stance numbers pretty consistent across boards (after 30 years and dozens of boards I know what I like) but I do agree that too many riders just set up there bindings according to some recommendation and never mess with them again. It’s so easy to try different stances and they make a big difference. Take the time to mess around and figure out what feels best.
 
#6 ·
It is my opinion that snowboarders as a whole are far too committed to their stance numbers.

I challenge you to liberate yourself from the tape measure. By using some arbitrary number as the constant in your setup is saying that your body is the least variable element of the snowboarding system.

First center yourself on the camber arc. If it’s one of these silly multi-profile boards (I own one), center each binding on its camber pocket. You can do this by laying the board base down on a table.

Next is snow. If groomers skip to step three. If things are getting deep jack that back binding all the way back on the inserts. Then move on to step three for the front.

Now we factor in what you are going to do.
Laying trenches? Your are going to want to have a narrower feel. Millage will vary but I like about should width plus half a foot width. If it’s groomers move both in/out equally. Pow move the front toward the back. This will give you the right balance of stability and maneuverability. Being a little narrower will give you more room to shift weight and inflict flex onto the board.

If it’s bumps and jumps a bit wider is going to give you more absorption for landings and more pop off the lip. Through the gnar this will also keep you from getting bucked around as much.

moral of the story listen to your body and less to the tape measure. Think about all the different foot positions we have on skateboards and how they vary with the board and the terrain.
 
#4 ·
Not a dumb question at all. The setback spec is usually on sidecut. I wish they'd tell you what it is on board, because it not only dictates pow performance, but also your weighting in a turn (and perhaps more indicative of how I'd ride it). Sure you can measure setback on board yourself, but if you're buying online you don't have that luxury.

Reference stance is how a board is intended to be ridden, but I seem to be more front foot weighted than average, so I tend to set the front foot back. I'm not riding much switch though.
 
#2 ·
Shadowban at the reference points should be 19 mm setback. Ideally if you want to keep the setback the same but change the width, you would want to move the front back, move the back front by the same amount.

I guess you are being limited by the disc of the bindings. I think as long as your setback is between 0 to like 40 mm you should be okay. You can try to play around with it to match it as close as possible to 20 mm setback (~ reference). At the end of the day, it is personal preference and compromise (width or setback). If you are more freestyle oriented you can choose to be more toward no setback. My understanding is that a slight setback can help carving, and obviously will be better in pow.