XDLR does from time to time.

But maybe they just find them uncomfortable and irritating?

 

But maybe they just find them uncomfortable and irritating?

I don't really see that as something of concern, most helmets are warm and comfortable and don't come off like a toque/beenie if you biff :dunno:

I wish I didn't have to/need to wear a helmet, but the trade off isn't worth it IMO

It is weird that there hasn't been a push for helmet wearing in shred vids (maybe there has and i never got the memo) :laugh:

 

I have wondered the same thing since I started riding..Its not just Pro riders,I think its Snowboarders in general.Although where I ride doesnt have the elevation that you would associate with risk we do have a Huge park section and some decently steep short hills..Its really the only place of its kind around so there is a alot of young decent riders just pushing it in the park as well as people bombing icy groomers that are literally bulletproof.And I would say its like 1 out of every 5 snowboarders wear a helmet.I think its ridiculous.Im sure that has alot to do with my age..I never wore a helmet skating growing up so I guess I understand but there is just sooo much speed involved with snowboarding..Only took me one snowboarding concussion to figure I wanted a helmet..Im just lucky it was only a concussion :laugh:

 

Snowboarders in general? That's pretty narrow minded to make an assumption of a group of people because of the way a few present themselves. Seems to me you don't just wear a helmet on the mountain...

 

t rice wears one from time to time when its sketchy stuff or something he hasnt ridden before. he wore one in art of flight for some runs. i also feel that the big mountain guys usually land in deep pow. but ive never ridden anything resembling movie quality conditions so i cant comment from experience.

 

I have no idea really. Doesn't look smart to me frankly. I can't image a pro athlete risking his/her life and career to wear a beanie.

 

The big mountain guys like De La Rue and Jeremy Jones often do.

 

Pros need to make it look easy.

It's hard to give that impression when you're wearing full body armour and mainstream protection. Their beanies are made of some Batman tech out of Kevlar and nano-quantum responsive impact absorbent kinetic gels.

 

I wear a helmet cause I dont want brain damage.. Pros.. I know some local pros that wear helmets when they are doing stuff theyve never done. Movies though.. It doesnt look good if a top level pro is wearing a helmet is what im guessing.

 

I see skiers wearing helmets all the time in movies. They don't look any less "pro" than snowboarders. It probably has something to do with the ideology of snowboarding being badass's or something.

 

i personally only wear a helmet if im doing a competition, when im riding on my own or filming i dont tend to wear one. im more worried about breaking bones/hurting my knees then i am hitting my head really. i also think it looks a little better while filming, like the one guy said it makes it look like its easy.

 

I know that tj schneider wears a helmet in his video parts. Jed Anderson wears sort of a helmet. In his video part from shoot the moon he has some sort of hard shell on his head, not sure if it would really protect his head if he crashed.

 

Helmets take the pressure from the google strap of your head,that is all.

 

Thats one of the dumbest things I think Ive read on this forum.. and thats saying alot...You can hurt yourself 100x different ways riding..Although 100% protection is virtually impossible and would get in the way of riding and what not..Its not that difficult to ride with a helmet vs without one..and yea a helmet wont protect against broken ribs or punctured lungs..but looking cool def wont help you not get a concussion.

 

People tend to obsess over the helmet when in reality, more serious injuries and deaths are the result of trauma to internal organs from a bad crash. Broken rib puncturing the lung or heart being a major one.

That's why people should wear an efficient dorsal protection. I have one personally.

I'm not afraid of hurting my knees or my arms because it sounds like minor injuries, whereas head injuries, broken ribs or spinal injuries may kill you or let you paralyzed.

I love snowboarding but it isn't worth dying for this, especially when the technology brings you the means to protect you efficiently.

 

your knees are, in my opinion, the most important thing you use while snowboarding. you blow out your knee and youre not going to be riding for awhile. plus its gonna make a lot of other things in your daily life a bit more difficult.

 

Head trauma is the new cool.

fucking retards...oh wait, that is what they will be, retarded after taking about 10 major falls to the head.

 

so i'm a retard because id rather not wear a helmet most of the time?

 

None of us actually know if these pros wear protection underneath their outerwear though. Some backpacks offer built-in spinal protection. Hell, a regular backpack with stuff in it helps too.

As for T.Rice, notice the only time he wears a helmet in AOF is when he has the GoPro on.

 

Somewhat relevant to this discussion, just saw this in today's Wall Street Journal

Where Snowboard Injuries Are

An analysis of snowboarding accidents published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine found significant differences in the location and severity of head injuries in beginners compared with experienced snowboarders.

Experienced snowboarders were more likely to have frontal-region injuries.

The study used data on 2,367 snowboarders, including 959 beginners and 1,408 experienced intermediates or experts, injured in northern Japan from 1999 to 2008. The average age was 24.

Falls accounted for 71% of beginner injuries. Among experienced snowboarders, falls and collisions accounted for 44% and 32%, respectively. Both groups suffered injuries most often in the occipital region at the back of the head. Experienced snowboarders were more likely to have frontal-region injuries.

Researchers said experienced snowboarders had more collisions with trees and other snowboarders and skiers. They also had more facial bone and head fractures than beginners.

Less than 2% of the beginners and 9% of the experienced snowboarders wore helmets. But this had little effect on severe intracranial injuries, which affected 3% of helmeted snowboarders and 2% of those without helmets. Helmets lead to more risk-taking and may not provide effective head protection, the report said.

Caveat: Beginner and experienced snowboarders weren't clearly defined.

What I think is interesting is in bold.. basically, if you are going to really f up your head, the helmet isn't going to save you. I do think for more minor falls/accidents they do their job well, but they have their limits.

I bought a helmet last year (first year back on the snow in 5), and wear it most of the time. Its comfortable and warm and I see no reason not to... though yesterday for some reason I didn't throw it on.

 

Somewhat relevant to this discussion, just saw this in today's Wall Street Journal

What I think is interesting is in bold.. basically, if you are going to really f up your head, the helmet isn't going to save you. I do think for more minor falls/accidents they do their job well, but they have their limits.

I bought a helmet last year (first year back on the snow in 5), and wear it most of the time. Its comfortable and warm and I see no reason not to... though yesterday for some reason I didn't throw it on.

This is quite interesting, but I see a flaw in that this study was likely performed at a hospital... so people who were there, were already injured. There is no control, as in how many snowboarders with helmets had a bad fall but didn't need medical attention vs. snowboarders without helmets that took bad falls and didn't need medical attention.

Oh science... I love you so...

 

I ride with a helmet to protect me from cracking my skull on jibs, trees and noobs. Thinking that a helmet is going to keep your brain from smashing up into the front of your skull is dumb. A helmet is not going to save you from a concussion.

 

I'd also like to see complimentary statistics on how educated those with helmeted injuries were on the proper usage and limitations of said helmets.

Also, it's talking about severe head injuries.

Furthermore, it states that less than 2% of beginners wore helmets and less than 9, again, 9% of EXPERIENCED riders wore them. The statistic itself said that experienced riders had more head injuries. Significantly more experienced riders wore helmets than beginners. So of course, you're going to see more severe helmeted injuries when most of the helmeted riders were experienced who obviously take more risks. By the way, do the math on that. 8% of 1408 vs 1% of 959. Huge difference. We're talking around 113 experienced riders wearing helmets in this sample vs around 10 beginners wearing them.

This is why statistics can be very misleading. You have to think about the numbers critically. This study is inconclusive and the author should be ashamed of himself.

 

i actually got a concussion last year (had to be woken up by ski patrol on the trail), and a lot of friends say how i was so fortunate that i wore my helmet. but i always wondered, if i didn't have it on, would i have done what i did to put me in a situation that led to the concussion? i mean, studies have definitely shown that additional safety measures are correlated with riskier behaviors that at least partially offset them. one of life's catch-22s.

i still wear my helmet because even if the safety is offset, the additional risk-taking helps me progress. plus, i bought a higher-end helmet that weights next to nothing and is very warm on my head.

 

No study has done such thing. It's a hypothesis and practically impossible to determine. I debunked the statistic that was shown above. Most statistics in articles are like this.

While I think it's very possible for someone to take more risks thinking they are safe-guarded, I think that's a rare occurrence given that the person was properly educated on the limitations of protection.

 

I think I've hit my head twice in my snowboarding "history", once with and once without. Both times felt equally painful but left me with less than even a grade I concussion. However, I've hurt my shoulders, ribs, hips, shins, forearms more times than I can count. Even on rails, I've never even come close to hitting my head, it's always something else that hits.

The pros probably just don't wear it out of habit. Helmets aren't considerably irritating, uncomfortable, expensive, heavy or whatever else, so I have to imagine this is out of habit. Seb Toots wore a helmet in his part in Black Winter, I have to wonder if someone required him to wear one or if he just chooses to.

 

I'm confused.. what exactly are you debunking? ...here is the abstract which has some of additional stats, but not all of those referenced in the write-up. Differences in Clinical Characteristics of Head Injuries to Snowboarders by Skill Level

What I said I found interesting was that many of the "anti-helmet" crowd argue that helmets (as a reuslt of their tech limitations) do little to actually protect you when you are going to experience one of those severe injuries and this study seems to bear that out no? Basically this argument:

The Problem with Snowsports Helmets - The Backcountry Skiing Blog

Now I see no downside to wearing one so I choose to.. knowing full well that its not a magic shroud.

 

The Problem with Snowsports Helmets - The Backcountry Skiing Blog

:thumbsup: That's a good read :thumbsup:

 

 

Helmets keep my ears warm. :thumbsup:

 

On the topic of feeling safer while riding with a helmet on, I have to say i do take more risks with a helmet on because in my head it seems like a fail safe. Apart from snowboarding i also play highschool football and i totally rely on my helmet to keep me safe. I would never to most of the things i do in football, outside football without when i dont have my helmet. Moving on, i have said to myself when i was first starting you wont get hurt you got a helmet on which might of been fine for begginer stuff, now as i advance maybe i should think about taking off the helmet.
Sorry i ramble or dont make scense

 

Completely ignoring what is going on around me, I think one of the reasons pro snowboarders don't wear helmets in movies is that it helps market them better. You can actually see their faces and it gives them an image to project (which can then be sold).

Personally, I don't think that saying people take more risks with helmets is a legitimate reason not to wear a helmet. It's obvious that we just need more education then. Go at the same rate, but with a helmet.

 

no helmet no care. #NHNC