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BIB Vs ZIP TECH - and do i really need goretex?? Japan

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#1 ·
Hey
So i have a really nice volcom jacket but the pants are battered/beaten up.

Need some new pants for this season...
Question is
A) Bib vs normal pants (they both have "zip tech", so don't know if the bib is actually pointless if i have zip tech which cuts off most of the snow getting in anyway). The plastic buckles on bibs put me off, look like they'd dig in. But they look super flexible compared to pants!

B) Do i need goretex, is 15,000 enough? One bib is gtx (rain bib), one is 15,000 (Roan). If i got normal pants i normally get goretex anyway. Obviously pay more GTX.

I'm heading to both europe and japan this year in them.
A lot of backcountry, a lot of park. I'll sometimes have a whole day outside resort lines digging a kicker with mates in the deep stuff. Hopefully light pow in japan, europe not so much and can rain/be very wet in spring.

If i have ziptech are bibs pointless, if i have 15,000/15,000 pants - would that be any different?

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
Personally, I like bibs more for the extra pockets than extra protection against snow, but that's probably because I wear hoodies sometimes. I would say zip tech would be more bathroom friendly, which bibs definitely aren't. Other than that, I'm gonna say it's personal preference and you can't go wrong either way. As for waterproofing/breathability, it really depends how wet you really think you're going to get and how heavily you sweat. 15/15 is generally going to be fine for most people and most conditions.
 
#4 ·
Yeah that makes sense... like the idea of riding with a hoody under it in spring and still being dry in the slush.
I guess with the bib i can also used the zip tech so theres like no chance snow is getting in!
For big hikes breathability helps... but also there'll be good vents on most.

Not pointless. Just because you wont be getting snow down your butt doesn't mean snow wont still get in your jacket. Totally one of those better to have it and not need it kind of things.
yeah i'm edging towards thinking that. Do they feel bulky or heavy? and does anyone notice the big plastic buckles?
I'm sorta concerned with an avi pack that the plastic buckles will be pressured in by the bag straps.
 
#3 ·
Not pointless. Just because you wont be getting snow down your butt doesn't mean snow wont still get in your jacket. Totally one of those better to have it and not need it kind of things.
 
#8 ·
i got both, they function a little differently, i like both ...the bib straps kinda rub my nipples though.

dont skip on the outerwear tech vis a vis gtx or something else high end.
 
#11 ·
Bibs for powder, no question.

Zip tech has broken on us a few times. Volcom makes cecent stuff but the zippers start peeling apart after a while. Bibs just keep being bibs... volcom is good, trew is better.
 
#12 ·
I've had bad experiences with Volcom myself. Everything I've had by them fell apart fast. So far my Dakine and Libtech bibs have held up to a lot of punishment, but always willing to check out new stuff.

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#13 ·
We have had a lot of their stuff, my son used to wear it. The 2 layer gortex is weak and will tear if you fart in it, it does it job of keeping you dry/warm though. The 3L is super strong.

The trew stuff is like its made out of Kevlar and gortex. super strong and works well
 
#15 ·
If you're just going to get a bib then you don't need zip tech. I would certainly recommend Dakine and Libtech. I have five and four seasons on mine, respectively and they show almost no sign of wear and I ride about 100 days a year in the northeast so... Lol

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#21 ·
Yeah same... just wondering if zip tech on a bib is overkill... or in fact zip tech to the bib make any difference whatsoever? Guess the jacket wouldn't ride up and snow can't get in the front?

Burton AK free bird bibs all day long... Zip tech is better than a normal outfit, but bibs are the winner...
I agree w/ this. Bibs will keep you more dry, however, I just don't like the hassle of the bibs.
The hassle being getting in and out of them??