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#141 ·
16gkid said:
but any time you gain from quick entry is lost if you have to sit down to strap in anyways, so whats the point here? this whole thing is a non issue, pretty sure i can get into my matics sitting down if i loosen the top strap, but again never been an issue since ive never had to sit down to strap in
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great to hear that you have never had to sit down to strap in.....wish you the fortune to one day travel to a ski resort, where the backcountry is so steep that you have to sit down to strap in.
 
#142 ·
David Partridge said:
great to hear that you have never had to sit down to strap in.....wish you the fortune to one day travel to a ski resort, where the backcountry is so steep that you have to sit down to strap in.
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You just spent all that time hiking out of bounds, whats a few secs to do up some straps?
 
#144 ·
theprocess said:
Answering my own question here. The straps are different to account for the longer ladder and bits that prevent it from slipping right off unintentionally.

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Took the Bataleons out for a couple of laps recently. They felt no different from the non-FASE Rome/Bataleon asym bindings. The FASE mechanism feels robust and spring action of the paddle/highback is very snappy. Time will tell how the moving parts hold up.

Theres definitely a learning curve to getting in and out - In requires toe first then heel down, Out requires (for me which may not be correct) heel first and a bit twist of the ankle inwards to fully release the paddle. Overall these are advertised. The one negative I found was the toe straps being out of position occasionally when stepping in - something for future development but not a deal breaker.
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although it looks interesting, if the toe straps being out of position occasionally when stepping in, and you have to adjust them also, then i do not see anyb big point to go for this system. At least now, and as long as i can bent over...(but if not, then better the Step Ons)
 
#145 ·
In/out in a steep backcountry could be a point indeed, especially not having toe the straps together can be way less sketcky. I see it mainly as an advantage on toeside entry. It's niche but when it happens you're glad you did. Heelside, well if you didn't/couldn't dig a platform large enough, worst case scenario you have a regular binding.

If you could flip the lever 180, this could make nice split bindings, with a natural walk mode.
 
#148 ·
I also don’t understand why anyone would buy these if they don’t plan on standing the majority of times getting into the bindings. I’m not saying there aren’t one-off situations (e.g., a one-off funky backcountry situations), but in general this is something that should make things just a little easier/quicker in the standing position.
 
#149 ·
David Partridge said:
great to hear that you have never had to sit down to strap in.....wish you the fortune to one day travel to a ski resort, where the backcountry is so steep that you have to sit down to strap in.
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I do a lot of backcountry and rarely do I run into a spot where I can’t make a platform. Especially backcountry access via resorts… I don’t recall this being a problem. I’ve been on some really skinny ridges with not a lot of room and high consequences, and aside from a one-off circumstance I’m always in some kind of standing position getting in my bindings. I’m not sure where you are going that requires sitting as the norm, but I’m struggling to imagine it. Again, yes there are one-off circumstances, but the regular need to sit with these is not making a lot of sense.
 
#150 ·
The talks about which options are viable to get into sitting down to me is centered around the conversations of "convenience" with these systems. For which with Supermatic, StepOn, and maybe FASE is all limited. The convenience is lost from these systems for beginners who aren't able to strap in standing up. Flow/Fastec you can at least get in relatively easy on the ground as long as you flip over and face the ground. StepOn being the next as you can probably get at least the heel cleat to engage and then maybe get up and snap the rest in? Never tried that the one day I rode them. Realistically the most "convenient" binding for a beginner in my eyes is one where the straps sit out of the way of slamming your foot into the binding, and ladders that feed super easy into the ratchets.
 
#151 ·
I kinda have a dream binding in mind, but it will never happen. Burton X baseplate and highback, Mission EST/Reflex footbed, FASE system and Malavita or Falcor straps with doubletake, and the same adjustability (3 hole) in Re:Flex, which Burton stopped making in 2020 on Mission and 2012 on Diode, Cartel somewhere in between. Freestyle still has it, but don't like the highback, footbed and straps.
 
#153 ·
You can always tell the difference between mountain riders and short hill riders during convenience debates on rapid entry bindings. My brother rode the lifts 15 times to collect 30k ft vert in just under 6 hours at Snowbird earlier this year. I did 29 runs for 8.8k vert in 4 hours at my short local hill. Most of my runs were 1-2 minutes, with a couple under 1 min.

There's a reason I went to Switch bindings in the 90s and never went back to the traditional 2-strap style.
 
#154 ·
15 runs at Snowbird is a solid day!

I was at 32 day up at Brighton yesterday and got to try stepping in/out of the FASE bindings. It was much much quicker that traditional bindings, even the speed of the heel straps. I think my next pair will be the FASE Katana's. One of my buddies rides step ons and was complaining that he had to bend over to tighten the heel strap, I had to remind him that he has to bend over to release his burton bindings too.
 
#156 ·
I found it extremely easy to step in and out of. I have regular Katana's and I find that I have to move the straps out of the way most of the time I am stepping in which is annoying, especially when you step on a toe strap. With the FASE, you won't ever have that issue.
 
#157 ·
Turms said:
although it looks interesting, if the toe straps being out of position occasionally when stepping in, and you have to adjust them also, then i do not see anyb big point to go for this system. At least now, and as long as i can bent over...(but if not, then better the Step Ons)
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It will be annoying to anyone that needs/wants the straps done up properly. For those that zip and go its a non-issue.
 
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