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After a lot of research I have narrowed down to three boards.

Jones Flagship
Burton Hometown Hero
Capita SBOD

I realize the Jones is likely the closest comparison to the K2 Alchemist. But I question if the others might fit my riding style and needs just as well.

75% of my riding is Piste, enjoying a nice carve, side hits, and riding through variable conditions, chunder, etc…. The other 25% is primarily tree runs through uneven terrain. Rarely ever switch and hardly any park laps.

I have concerns the BSOD is too freestyle oriented and likely not well suited?

Regarding the HTH…. Is it directional enough, how is the edge hold and carving experience?

Does the Jones check all my boxes? (Full disclosure I don’t love the graphics 😳)

Any feedback or real world experiences would be appreciated. I am also still open to other suggestions.

I generally prefer stiffer boards just because of the stability through different conditions and speed aspect. I carve just as much as I go full throttle. I also want something stable at slow speed so I can ride with my kids.

Thank you

 

[Snowdaddy]

Does the Jones check all my boxes?

It depends on what your political reason is for not buying Chinese.

 

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It depends on what your political reason is for not buying Chinese.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[parkcityxj]

You're overthinking it. Every board you have mentioned is a highly regarded ripper, I would be happy on any of them as should any other competent rider. All these boards will perform similar but have different riding characteristics, which you haven't really pin pointed such as damp, lively, quick, long radius turns, short, etc. Unless you have the experience of riding many different boards and ride multiple days per week throughout the season, you should be stoked on any of them.

I own many freeride boards that I like. They all haul ass, rips carves, good in variable conditions, pow, trees, etc but they all do it in slightly differently manners or excel in some areas more than others.

You can research until the end of the internet but at the end of the day it's what feels best under your feet and we all like different things. Read any board review out there, it's pretty hard to find a bad one tbh. I'd pick a brand that aligns with your values and is most relatable to you or even the one you think looks the coolest. None are a bad choice.

 

[Board Doctor]

Find one of those on sale and spend the savings on some more gear!

 

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Thank you both! Decision made.

You're overthinking it. Every board you have mentioned is a highly regarded ripper, I would be happy on any of them as should any other competent rider. All these boards will perform similar but have different riding characteristics, which you haven't really pin pointed such as damp, lively, quick, long radius turns, short, etc. Unless you have the experience of riding many different boards and ride multiple days per week throughout the season, you should be stoked on any of them.

I own many freeride boards that I like. They all haul ass, rips carves, good in variable conditions, pow, trees, etc but they all do it in slightly differently manners or excel in some areas more than others.

You can research until the end of the internet but at the end of the day it's what feels best under your feet and we all like different things. Read any board review out there, it's pretty hard to find a bad one tbh. I'd pick a brand that aligns with your values and is most relatable to you or even the one you think looks the coolest. None are a bad choice.

Find one of those on sale and spend the savings on some more gear!

 

[unsuspected]

Thanks for the feedback.

Buying Jones is even worse than buying Chinese.

 

[money4me247]

Buying Jones is even worse than buying Chinese.

How come?

 

[Cambered234]

After a lot of research I have narrowed down to three boards.

Jones Flagship
Burton Hometown Hero
Capita SBOD

I realize the Jones is likely the closest comparison to the K2 Alchemist. But I question if the others might fit my riding style and needs just as well.

75% of my riding is Piste, enjoying a nice carve, side hits, and riding through variable conditions, chunder, etc…. The other 25% is primarily tree runs through uneven terrain. Rarely ever switch and hardly any park laps.

I have concerns the BSOD is too freestyle oriented and likely not well suited?

Regarding the HTH…. Is it directional enough, how is the edge hold and carving experience?

Does the Jones check all my boxes? (Full disclosure I don’t love the graphics 😳)

Any feedback or real world experiences would be appreciated. I am also still open to other suggestions.

I generally prefer stiffer boards just because of the stability through different conditions and speed aspect. I carve just as much as I go full throttle. I also want something stable at slow speed so I can ride with my kids.

Thank you

The BSOD is not too freestyle. This board has evolved/changed over its tenure and I suggest looking at only this past year’s information. I don’t think think anything is changing for next years board other than maybe the graphics (at least on paper it looks the same). Just because this board can hit jumps and has pop doesn’t mean it’s a freestyle board. I will say this though, unless your riding style already fits the board, there’s a learning curve on the BSOD to unlock what makes it special. Also, I’ve had no issues riding this in deep powder, mostly really steep lines, but if you know how to ride powder you will be just fine. This board is fast. If you ride it fast enough then you’ll figure it out and love the thing. If you ride slowly, this isn’t the board for you.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Thank you both! Decision made.

Signal Tailgunner

Tailgunner - Deep State

The Tailgunner is a masterpiece built with the friendly and knowledgeable staff at Baldface Lodge. A Signal Customer favorite on a powder day, this fierce shape and calculated combination of length and width in the nose and tail make it perfection in powder. A dreamy flex, shorter overall riding...

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Signal Tailgunner

Tailgunner - Deep State

The Tailgunner is a masterpiece built with the friendly and knowledgeable staff at Baldface Lodge. A Signal Customer favorite on a powder day, this fierce shape and calculated combination of length and width in the nose and tail make it perfection in powder. A dreamy flex, shorter overall riding...

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Awesome suggestion! Made about 30 minutes from my house. Definitely peaks my interest. Thank you

 

[dwdesign]

Awesome suggestion! Made about 30 minutes from my house. Definitely peaks my interest. Thank you

The Tailgunner 158 is something I'd love to pick up next season. Also note that Signal uses "two of the best factories in the world to continue to produce the best boards on the market." You can't avoid it.

 

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The Tailgunner 158 is something I'd love to pick up next season. Also note that Signal uses "two of the best factories in the world to continue to produce the best boards on the market." You can't avoid it.

what do you mean “you can’t avoid it” are you saying their boards are made in China

 

[dwdesign]

what do you mean “you can’t avoid it” are you saying their boards are made in China

You can email/ask them which boards in their lineup are made near your house vs a global manufacturing partner facility. Whatever the reason for choosing to buy vs not buy based on where they are made -- remember that there are many awesome snowboard brands (Signal included) that started local in many areas of the world, but in order to grow or scale the business, some made the decision to partner with facilities that can handle the volume or increased quality, at an affordable cost of manufacturing.

 

[Nyperfox]

The Tailgunner 158 is something I'd love to pick up next season. Also note that Signal uses "two of the best factories in the world to continue to produce the best boards on the market." You can't avoid it.

Just go Libtech or GNU if your worried


All made in the USA

 

[Nivek]

Cabin Mtn Tools should be Keil. Really similar to the Niche Maelstrom which should also be considered, but I don’t know where they’re pressed now. Lib Dynamo mentioned is a really solid option. Wired snowboards is Canada and good good shit. Marhar in Michigan is top notch. If you’re ok with Dubai (seems like it) the Arbor Iguchi. Nideckers “surf” line including I believe the Alpha and Beta are Dubai. I think the higher end Bataleon and Rome stuff is Dubai.

 

[Board Doctor]

FAQ

wiredsnowboards.com

"Wired Snowboards is based in Vancouver, Canada. However, due to various factors it is uneconomical to produce all of our snowboards in Vancouver. For this reason, our In- Season line is produced with our partner factory is China, while custom orders, special shop orders and some smaller production runs, such as the Devun Walsh series pro model are produced in Canada."

 

[LoveyourbodyLarry]

Niche Maelstrom would fit the bill as well it sounds like. They’re pressed at Meditec which is somewhere in Africa if I’m not mistaken?

 

[Board Doctor]

Niche Maelstrom would fit the bill as well it sounds like. They’re pressed at Meditec which is somewhere in Africa if I’m not mistaken?

The last I read it was indeed… Tunisia on the Mediterranean. A former Nidecker factory.

 

[unsuspected]

How come?

Stolen quote from a likeminded snowboarder:

"Dubai has absolutely zero natural resources. Every single thing in that city is imported. EVERYTHING. The city has both the highest carbon footprint of any city on the planet and the highest total carbon footprint per person. This isn’t some internet rumor or YouTube research. The global organizations that study, rank and classify carbon footprint all agree, Dubai, is the absolute worst place on the planet in terms of carbon footprint in all catagories, even their ability to use solar doesn’t even dent their carbon footprint in a positive way because of the absolute lack of any natural resources and a bunch of that power has to be used for desalination of water, which is a very power hungry task/operation."

Then there the whole slave labor to build Dubai which is another aspect. Not that it's better or worse than China but it's there. Human rights aren't great in Dubai.

Jeremy jones is a hypocrite. Being the founder of POW on one side and running a company that produces snowboards that needs to be profitable. Wouldn't say that he really cares about the environment but its a good selling point for "eco-friendly" boards.