[DaveMayes]

Also, is it me or the boots are roomier inside than other brands? I had an older pair of Burton Rulers and I could swear they felt more snug compared to these Salsa, even though they are both mondo 26.5.

They seem to have a much higher volume than most other boots. I had to add foam to mine after the first day out to suck some of it up. I tried the next size down and toes were smashed.

TLDR. Great for fat feet

 

[Demi9OD]

They seem to have a much higher volume than most other boots. I had to add foam to mine after the first day out to suck some of it up. I tried the next size down and toes were smashed.

TLDR. Great for fat feet

These are totally not the boot for me then. I'd be sorta interested in using the displacement method to see just how below average volume my feet are for their length.

 

[YesV]

They seem to have a much higher volume than most other boots. I had to add foam to mine after the first day out to suck some of it up. I tried the next size down and toes were smashed.

TLDR. Great for fat feet

Yeah, totally agree. In my case, I use a pair of Footprint Game changer elite insoles, which are a lot thicker than the original ones and make the boot a better fit for me, but I also use zero padding Smartwool socks which are very thin. My foot is a normal width, just at the very top range of normal and they still feel a bit roomy inside. Length-wise, my left foot is exactly 26.5 and I can definitely feel the front if I stand up straight, but compared to my old Rulers they are a shade longer. I suspect if I got them in mondo260, they'd feel too short. For me, if they pack out too much, a slightly padded sock would fix the issues, but they are definitely not for everyone.

 

[E.Schnee]

Yeah, totally agree. In my case, I use a pair of Footprint Game changer elite insoles, which are a lot thicker than the original ones and make the boot a better fit for me, but I also use zero padding Smartwool socks which are very thin. My foot is a normal width, just at the very top range of normal and they still feel a bit roomy inside. Length-wise, my left foot is exactly 26.5 and I can definitely feel the front if I stand up straight, but compared to my old Rulers they are a shade longer. I suspect if I got them in mondo260, they'd feel too short. For me, if they pack out too much, a slightly padded sock would fix the issues, but they are definitely not for everyone.

Where do you think is the extra volume? Toe width, mid-foot, instep, ankle?

Roomy sounds nice for my feet, however, I am a bit hesitant since they are designed by the same guy who designs burton boots, which are awful for my feet. Nice and roomy in the toe box but way too narrow in the midfoot.

 

[DaveMayes]

Where do you think is the extra volume? Toe width, mid-foot, instep, ankle?

Roomy sounds nice for my feet, however, I am a bit hesitant since they are designed by the same guy who designs burton boots, which are awful for my feet. Nice and roomy in the toe box but way too narrow in the midfoot.

These do not fit like Burton boots whatsoever. They seem to be made for people with considerably wider feet; and either very high insteps, or larger (more meaty) feet. I tried to size down due to the extra volume, but could not make them work for my foot. Roomy toebox and very roomy mid foot.

 

[YesV]

These do not fit like Burton boots whatsoever. They seem to be made for people with considerably wider feet; and either very high insteps, or larger (more meaty) feet. I tried to size down due to the extra volume, but could not make them work for my foot. Roomy toebox and very roomy mid foot.

I agree with the above. Length is comparable to my very old Burton Rulers, maybe a couple of mm longer, but everything else is wider and the foam in the liner is softer - I suspect that since they are part of Nidecker, they too are going for comfort out of the box, but I have concerns about the lifespan of the liner. I'd say that if you use them more than 7- 10 days a year, and you don't have wide feet, you might want to look at something else. For example, my packed out Rulers, worn with a pair of Smarwool zero cushion socks felt as snug as the brand new Bataleon worn with a pair of Smarwool targeted cushion socks. I'm taking a gamble with these, but I have plantar fasciitis in my right foot so less pressure works for me, but I strongly recommend keeping them on for as long as possible before committing. Having said that, if the liner packs out too much after a while, if the shell is fine and love the colourways, an aftermarket Intuition liner isn't wildly expensive (cheaper than a new boot anyway).

 

[divesnowsurf]

Just tried them on and think maybe will share some insights.

I am typically wearing US 9 boots and I am more like a bit toward E width. I have Salomon Dialogue wide US9 and Ride Fuse US9.

The boots are well built and feel quite durable.

I like the tpu toe cap like the one on Ride fuse. My Salomon has damages at the toe cap without this feature.

Big thing to talk about is the aggressive foams they have around the heel pocket on liners. Those foams are thick and stiff. I did not realize they will be so stiff. They are good and bad at the same time. When I have my feet in, I feel my heels so secured. However, I am really having a super hard time putting my feet in. Maybe it will be easier when it breaks in, but wow it is so hard.

Next is the fit. The fit is very precise. My feet are almost exactly 27 cm, and these boots fit without any room. Width seem fine with my E feet. I actually compared the insole between the Salsa to the other two boots. I found the one in Bataleon is somehow 1 cm shorter. And I do feel it fits way more precise.

One thing I don't like is the calf area design. The liners are quite thick and the tongue is very stiff and molded. For some reason when I tighten the Boa to the tightness I want, the tongue is still somehow far away from the liner. There is just a gap, and it feels wrong. So people with thick calf might need to watch out for this.

As for Dimension, I think the length is very comparable to two other boots I have. However it is bulkier in height and width due to the thick liners.

The flex is quite stiff compared to Salomon Dialogue and Ride fuse. If I tighten my fuse boots a lot then maybe they are similar. It is definitely stiffer than I expected. For reference I am 180 lb.

All in all, I think these are good boots. I don't like the calf area design though, it seems quite narrow for most people. I have mixed feelings about the added foams around the heel pocket. It is my first time having so much difficulty putting my feet in....and out!

Hope these help some people if you are also interested in picking one up. Of course try them on before you buy is always the best option.

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I am trying a Bataleon Acid 12.5 at home right now. Also though the liner was weird and it was super hard getting in the first time. But was easier the second time after I did some flexing it. It's quite stiff also.

Are you happy with it. Could you please share how much it did pack out, and how much it retained stiffness?

 

[divesnowsurf]

Just an update after riding it today for the first time on the hill.

Fit is great and no strange pressure points or pain, for me at least. The middle of my feet somehow started feeling more roomy after I had ridden a couple of laps. I can feel the additional foams around the heel but not to the point that it hurts me. I also found out that my feet are bigger than the insoles. I am quite surprised that the fit feels all right. Perhaps the thick liner makes up for that.

The boots are a bit too responsive for my taste but it's probably a good thing when charging and carving. Compared to my 50+ day Salomon Dialogue, it is way stiffer and responsive. I put a bit of pressure on my toe and I feel my toe side carve went too far. I think I like ride fuse's tongue better, where I can actually change the way I tie the lace and how much boa I rotate to control the flex of it. Maybe the lace version of Salsa can do the same, but the tongue just seems really stiff to me in general. I do want some boa in my life though. The laces are just a bit messy especially when the ground is wet.

As for putting feet into the boots...I can see it may get easier for me to get in overtime. I found that it is important to make sure I pull the front of the liner up when I step my foot in so that it makes more space. At least I managed to put them on and enjoyed my day snowboarding.

I am trying a Bataleon Acid 12.5 at home right now. Also though the liner was weird and it was super hard getting in the first time. But was easier the second time after I did some flexing it. It's quite stiff also.
Are you happy with it. Could you please share how much it did pack out, and did it get a bit more flexible? Thanks

 

[divesnowsurf]

i have the bataleon acid boot. Also have trouble getting in and out of them

I am trying a Bataleon Acid 12.5 at home right now. Also though the liner was weird and it was super hard getting in the first time. But was easier the second time after I did some flexing it. It's quite stiff also.
Are you happy with it. Could you please share how much it did pack out, and did it get a bit more flexible? Thanks

 

[barry831125]

I am trying a Bataleon Acid 12.5 at home right now. Also though the liner was weird and it was super hard getting in the first time. But was easier the second time after I did some flexing it. It's quite stiff also.
Are you happy with it. Could you please share how much it did pack out, and did it get a bit more flexible? Thanks

I only rode with the Bataleon Salsa Boa for 2 days now. The second day it is noticeably easier to put my feet in and I kinda get familiar with it. I can imagine that will just be easier and easier. I think the big thing to be aware of is how small the calf area is. I have E feet and inside the boots, my feet feel good.

My calf is too big for the opening though. It does not really make my calf hurt or what. Just the way the Boa closes the top area, you will feel that it is visually not tight just from looking at it. However, it is already tight and responsive. If you crank it so that the top closes, it will be way too tight and too responsive. You just have to play with it a couple time to get used to it.

I also noticed that the boots are super bulky width and height-wise, but the length is good. Compared to my Salomon Dialogue wide and Ride Fuse (all US9), these boots are bulky. I think it's not a huge issue since the length is similar at least. You just might have to adjust the ankle strap and the toe strap to accommodate for that if you have multiple boots.

I think overall I am happy with it and I am going to keep it. I will start riding Salsa a bit more and may update later.

 

[WellDone]

Didn't try the Salsa.

I found myself in a situation where the Bataleon Acid boots were the stiffest ones available in my country. However, the fit is… unusual

I also tried the Bataleon Mosh. They are tight to put on the first time and nearly impossible to take off if you don’t loosen the liner enough. The Mosh felt stiffer than its specs suggest. As for durability, we’re not sure yet—maybe they’ll soften after a few rides.

At the same time, my girlfriend bought the Mosh and had the same issue with the tongue closure. I’m pretty sure the liner will become thinner over time, and the tongues will settle into a better position. After wearing them at home a few times, their position already started to feel more natural.

Regarding the Acid boots…
My goal was to find the stiffest boots possible. I really liked the look, build quality, stiffness, heel hold, and overall comfort of the Acid boots! However, I felt a bit too much pressure in the area between the instep and toes, where the bottom end of the tongue sits. After wearing them for 15 minutes, it became more tolerable. I then removed the default insoles to reduce thickness in the front, which improved the fit. I didn’t have this issue with the Mosh—they just felt normally tight, as new boots should. In terms of length, the fit was precise. The next size up (+0.5) didn’t work—it had no heel hold, and the boot flattened on the sides when pressing toe-side.

I’m frustrated. Does anyone have any suggestions?

I think Bataleon made some pretty interesting boots, but the fit is unusual. I’ve seen many complaints and surprised reactions about how they fit.

 

[divesnowsurf]

Didn't try the Salsa.

I found myself in a situation where the Bataleon Acid boots were the stiffest ones available in my country. However, the fit is… unusual

I also tried the Bataleon Mosh. They are tight to put on the first time and nearly impossible to take off if you don’t loosen the liner enough. The Mosh felt stiffer than its specs suggest. As for durability, we’re not sure yet—maybe they’ll soften after a few rides.

At the same time, my girlfriend bought the Mosh and had the same issue with the tongue closure. I’m pretty sure the liner will become thinner over time, and the tongues will settle into a better position. After wearing them at home a few times, their position already started to feel more natural.

Regarding the Acid boots…
My goal was to find the stiffest boots possible. I really liked the look, build quality, stiffness, heel hold, and overall comfort of the Acid boots! However, I felt a bit too much pressure in the area between the instep and toes, where the bottom end of the tongue sits. After wearing them for 15 minutes, it became more tolerable. I then removed the default insoles to reduce thickness in the front, which improved the fit. I didn’t have this issue with the Mosh—they just felt normally tight, as new boots should. In terms of length, the fit was precise. The next size up (+0.5) didn’t work—it had no heel hold, and the boot flattened on the sides when pressing toe-side.

I’m frustrated. Does anyone have any suggestions?

I think Bataleon made some pretty interesting boots, but the fit is unusual. I’ve seen many complaints and surprised reactions about how they fit.

Thanks for sharing. It's rated as a 7/10 but feels pretty stiff compared to other brand.

Bataleonis one of the few brands with size 12.5 (other is Salomon, but quality has gone downhill), and the Acid fits me well in the toe box and the heel hold seems good on both my feet (including the smaller one). But I find it weird that when I flex my leg forward, it creases inward over the foot. I worry this could lead to pain. Is that what you meant by "flattens on the sides"?

 

[barry831125]

I personally think the stiffness mostly comes from the super high liner and a super stiff tongue.

The liner sits really high and is quite firm out of the box, making the toe response almost too quick. The tongue feels really stiff even without tightening the boa too much. I found myself having some difficulty on the toe side turn than usual because I couldn't really flex toward the toe. I am hoping that it will eventually break in.

 

[divesnowsurf]

I personally think the stiffness mostly comes from the super high liner and a super stiff tongue.

The liner sits really high and is quite firm out of the box, making the toe response almost too quick. The tongue feels really stiff even without tightening the boa too much. I found myself having some difficulty on the toe side turn than usual because I couldn't really flex toward the toe. I am hoping that it will eventually break in.

How many times have you worn it?Are you getting a crease on top of the foot when flexing and does it hurt? Thanks

 

[barry831125]

How many times have you worn it?Are you getting a crease on top of the foot when flexing and does it hurt? Thanks

Three times for now and I have to wear it more. I dont get any pressure point on my feet. Just the tongue is too stiff.

 

[YesV]

Three times for now and I have to wear it more. I dont get any pressure point on my feet. Just the tongue is too stiff.

Same experience here. Worn them twice, I don't get pressure points, but the tongue is stiff compared to medium flexing boots that I couldn't really feel what I was doing. However, after a couple of runs I stopped thinking about it so the issue is more around having to adapt to the new boot, rather than the boot being hard to press. On a separate note, my feet are slim so although the length is perfect, they almost feel like wide boots and unlike most people who commented, I feel like they could be tighter side to side especially around my heel, but still no heel lift for me. I've had to wear slightly padded socks with these, so be mindful of this if you have a normal width foot, especially if you don't use custom insoles as they'd probably be way too spacious inside in that case.

 

[barry831125]

Same experience here. Worn them twice, I don't get pressure points, but the tongue is stiff compared to medium flexing boots that I couldn't really feel what I was doing. However, after a couple of runs I stopped thinking about it so the issue is more around having to adapt to the new boot, rather than the boot being hard to press. On a separate note, my feet are slim so although the length is perfect, they almost feel like wide boots and unlike most people who commented, I feel like they could be tighter side to side especially around my heel, but still no heel lift for me. I've had to wear slightly padded socks with these, so be mindful of this if you have a normal width foot, especially if you don't use custom insoles as they'd probably be way too spacious inside in that case.

I have US9 E feet and I think the toe box is great but the heel pocket is a bit wider. I also have some space in the Heel region as well. It's funny that they have so many additional foams on the liners to lock your heels but still, I can move my heel around.

I think those foams are good and bad. Great that they have those, but bad if they are just not in the ideal positions! I think maybe it makes more sense to tune down the liners a bit and let the customers have the room to adjust if needed. I still think that tongue is too stiff but I can make it work. I think the Ride Fuse tongue design is so far my favorite. Having enough support built still give if you push in. I want to try the Nidekcer Kita hybrid, which I think also has a similar tongue design with the internal heel lock controlled by a side boa.

 

[Nivek]

Y’all weren’t fuckin around. This is the hardest boot to get into that I have ever put my foot into. Which is most boots. Like damn. That is a serious h-bar on the liner. Should have tons of life. Nice dense foam that should hold its shape. Good but not too… anything, heelpocket.

 

[Nivek]

Also apparently the throat of the boot will be opened up more for '26 production, and with just a small bit of heat to soften the liner the boot is 100x easier to get into.

 

[DaveMayes]

Also apparently the throat of the boot will be opened up more for '26 production, and with just a small bit of heat to soften the liner the boot is 100x easier to get into.

I found that pulling the little red tab to loosen the yellow ropes was the key to getting in - and out. They are like a bear trap.