Kevin,.. Kevin, Kevin!!!! Tsk, tsk! First skiing, and now this Ol' chestnut!! :facepalm1:

Are you looking to be a pariah? :laugh: (...just givin' ya a hard time cuz this topic always has a tendency to get a tad,... "Heated?"

I personally always wear mine, even tho I look like I have a severe case of "Punkin' Head" when I wear it. . But I figure better to look like a giant squash than to wind up in a hospital bed impersonating one!

I do tend to agree with the notion that it should be mandatory for children and even young adults. Say maybe 16-17 and under. Especially in the parks. But if their parents don't care enough about their safety? Who am I to interfere! :shrug:

 

own safety

IMO, this is the main important thing. It's everybody's own choice and responsibility. I don’t like this "message to kids" argument... kids should get their education by their parents, by understand n learn to be self-responsible, not by laws and enforcements (which seldom lead to insight but often to offense on purpose, especially with teens :dunno

If enough accidents n injuries arise by a certain action and could be prevented by certain actions - like belts n cars - that the entire population suffers from having to pay for all the many injured, then be it, make it mandatory, but we're not there yet (or ever) with the present topic.

 

Do resorts ever require employees to wear them?

Our mountain does not apparently, as many instructors don't wear helmets. My job requires certain safety equipment, you might think resorts would do the same. Maybe they don't perceive an increase in safety with there use? Would almost think helmet use by there employees would be imposed by the insurance carrier.

 

The only time they should be mandatory it's when they're on your own kids.

 

Here:

Ahhh so you're the skier guy.... oh boy.
Ski on.

if i was a moderator:

 

If it's not that crowded and you just skiing/riding groomers I see no reason to wear helmets.

But if it's crowded, or you like to try tricks during your runs, or you just bombing it, then yes.

Thus my answer is it shouldnt be...

 

If it's not that crowded and you just skiing/riding groomers I see no reason to wear helmets.
But if it's crowded, or you like to try tricks during your runs, or you just bombing it, then yes.
Thus my answer is it shouldnt be...

2 years ago I was just riding groomers on the easy side of our resort. Lots of newbies. I'm one chair back and a newb wipes out getting off the lift, no biggie. I wait, others get off, the downed guy is still rolling around like a stuck penguin, no biggie. I off load and go around him, well I waited to late, was in a bad spot and got drilled in the temple by the chair coming around the bull wheel, driving me straight to the ground.

Because of the helmet I was fine. I consider this a silly mistake on my part. Trying to let the guy get out of the way and still give him time, and thinking I'd be fine.
POINT Shit happens !!! and so glad I had my helmet on, even on a groomer.

As many here also know, I parent, so mandatory for my kids. ALSO if you come in my/our car or on a trip with me you are required to wear a helmet. I had to call a dad to tell him he needed to take his kid to the ER for a concussion. He rode with my kids but got his own ride there by his parent and I brought him home. That is one call I never want to make again!!

Back to my kids I don't care if your 18 or older. I bought your pass, paying for your college, your phones, your life basically and you still live under my roof. Very small sacrifice for them to wear a helmet to keep me happy and them safe.

I think event coordinators should require them. This is just my thought I don't' think they ever will though and I'm fine with that.

 

I am not trying to say you SHOULD wear a helmet, but isn't it responsible if you are organising a competition that it should be mandatory to compete though, i get that people should not be forced to wear them, and that probably works over there in the USA, as if you fall and hit your head, then YOU pay for your medical care, but over here in Norway, and for that matter the rest of Europe, that is not the case. If you fall and hit your head, then it is the tax payer that pics up the bill...

So is it the same consequence to the same question...???

And again, freedom and all that, and you should teach by example, but surely the one part of your body that you should always make sure is protected is the bit that gives you the same choice to make that decision...

We don't have a mandatory use here, but you can see that ALL kids wear them, some of them are useless as they are not strapped properly, are hanging of there heads etc, but they wear them, and parents generally lead by example...

I was in Trysil during the week, and saw someone go over a roller, get some air, and fall, she hit the floor, on her arse, her helmet jolted off her head, and then she proceeded to do a couple of cartwheels...!!! Helmet was useless as not worn correctly...

I was just curious as to what others thought, considering the differences between the USA and EU... Would your thoughts change if you knew your tax dollar was being used for long term care, because it was not cool to wear one...

 

….I was just curious as to what others thought, considering the differences between the USA and EU... Would your thoughts change if you knew your tax dollar was being used for long term care, because it was not cool to wear one...

Well, actually, for the most part, tax dollars would be spent on it! If you are indigent and can't pay, you still receive emergency treatment. When the hospital can't collect, they write it off on taxes AND jack up the bill for the next guy! That,.. (along with almost criminal levels of greed! IMO only!) Is one of the contributing factors to the high cost of medical care and insurance here in the US.

So I would hazard a guess that knowledge of those facts aren't likely to change anyones opinion here!

It's kind of like when "no fault auto insurance" gets pedaled to voters as a way to stop lawsuits and keep rising insurance costs down! It actually does the exact opposite!! Because you are no longer paying based on your safe driving record. You're now paying for everyone else's "Bad" record! :dunno:

 

Everyone should wear helmet same reason everyone should wear seatbelt. You might be a very good snowboarder/skier but you can never stop idiots crashing into you.

 

I think wearing a helmet should be a personal choice

I am an instructor and at my mountain, when we are in uniform its a personal choice for us EXCEPT when we decide to enter the terrain park, then we have to have a helmet on.

as far as competitions go, when i raced in USCSA we were required to wear helmets in races, i dunno about nasta, USSA and other competitions though

Despite all the negatives of not wearing a helmet i think its a personal choice, and if someone gets seriously injured because they don't have a helmet, its their fault.

and I usually wear a helmet at all times, I only dont wear one when its extremely hot out, and when i dont have one on, i dont do park

 

If they ever make it a requirement on a snowboard, that's the day I break down the doors demanding a repeal of the "no helmet law" for motorcycles.

If Joe Fuckhead can ride his motorcycle on the freeway without a helmet, then I should be able to snowboard without one.

 

If they ever make it a requirement on a snowboard, that's the day I break down the doors demanding a repeal of the "no helmet law" for motorcycles.

Over here, helmets are even mandatory on a moped... just saying.

 

In Australia i believe that law still exists? At least bike riders MUST wear helmets

I know Americans are very particular about their 'freedoms' being threatened, so i dont think this would be able to be done over there, but it wouldnt bother me anyway since i wear a helmet every time on the mountain (I laugh at the non-helmetted boarders who stack it and end up having to collect their snow filled goggles that almost immediately fly off their heads).

I think something like requiring them in competitions is good though. No matter how good you teach your kids, if helmets are deemed to be uncool because none of the pros wear them, then the minute you turn your back on them that 15yr old kid of yours is taking his off, i guarantee it.

 

Kids should have to wear helments - Simple fact, who cares, make em mandatory, make em available as 4 dollar rentals, its kids, who cares if a few actually ride really well, most are idiots and should wear a helmet.

Adults - only on TV - The influence is just too strong on the kids. If you wanna be a pro snowboarder, you might have to wear a helmet. Get over it.

 

I wear a helmet by choice.

if you don't that's fine. But if you bust your skull, accept the responsibility and don't sue the resort.

 

Natural selection. I'll keep wearing mine, I'm not going to force anyone to wear one though. Have fun with the concussions.

 

do helmets prevent concussions? depends who you ask i guess.

http://www.bicycling.com/sites/default/files/uploads/BI-June-13-Helmet.pdf
No good evidence that mouthguards and helmets ward off concussion -- ScienceDaily


If you are going to use the argument that it cost tax dollars then do we address things like donuts, pop, cake, sunday drives, unprotected sex, alcohol, and add whatever else you want to the list, in the same way?

The number of people you are paying for who are injured in snowboarding would be relatively low in my estimation (i have 0 actual stats on this, just guessing).

 

do helmets prevent concussions? depends who you ask i guess.



http://www.bicycling.com/sites/default/files/uploads/BI-June-13-Helmet.pdf

No good evidence that mouthguards and helmets ward off concussion -- ScienceDaily





If you are going to use the argument that it cost tax dollars then do we address things like donuts, pop, cake, sunday drives, unprotected sex, alcohol, and add whatever else you want to the list, in the same way?



The number of people you are paying for who are injured in snowboarding would be relatively low in my estimation (i have 0 actual stats on this, just guessing).

In order to prevent concussions, the helmet needs to be extraordinarily thick, in order to decelerate the brain properly, so it doesn't bounce off the cranial cavity. In addition, it has to be soft enough to deform and absorb energy.... So it's really not that feasible.

That being said, I have crashed hard on the road bike that I have cracked my helmet.... Preventing my skull being busted open on the pavement

 

I ride motorcycles.
This question is brought up again and again where bikes are concerned.

Thankfully I live in a state where there is not a mandatory helmet law for motorcyclists.

I always have a helmet with me.
I do not always wear one though.
On my sports bike I always wear one. (full Face)
The faring likes to throw birds in my face and I get real aggressive in my turns so I protect my melon.
On my street bike I usually only wear one when I am playing on the twisties in the mountains.
If I could find a half helmet that did not lift my head up at high speeds I would wear one all the time on my street bike also.
Helmets on motorcycled do save lives.
Very glad the choice is mine to make though.

I have a few snowboarding helmets.
Any competitions at the local resort are helmet mandatory events.
Other then that they do not get worn by me.
They are collecting dust now as I do not ride competitions anymore.
In my age group I would be competing against myself.
I would probably lose anyways..

Very glad the choice is mine to make though.

Real nice display of helmets at ticket windows would be nice to see.
Extremely cheap helmet rentals.
Free bug be gone.
Would promote safety.
Just dreaming on that of course.
They do not even have signs telling people not to stop and talk in landing areas.

Now if I was dicktator things would be different.

 

I'm wearing a helmet as I read this thread :facepalm1:

 

Regarding rental helmets...how long do they last? All the helmets I've bought say one legit impact and the helmet it toast. I know resorts already rent helmets out, but I'm curious how long they stay in rotation before they are recycled out. If they are damaged they aren't at the same protection level as before said impact, but it's not something you can see from looking at the helmet inside or out.

 

That was my brother standing in a lift line, and getting stabbed in the helmet by a skiers pole...

I definitely agree with the free choice, i just feel like i am not fully dressed when boarding without it... And wondered what others thoughts are at the moment...

Percentage wise, certainly here in Norway i reckon it is probably a 80%+ usage of helmets, not so sure what numbers other countries would have though...

 

Condoms and birth control should be mandatory.

 

hahaha i came in here to say that helmets should be mandatory when we can finally get forced sterilizations on idiots who think like Kevin. fair is fair, and stupid people should be stopped from breeding.

 

Yeah, more rules. I definitely need some other group of people telling me how I should get to live. Absolutely....

I always wear a helmet when I ride, almost always on my motorcycle and always wear a seat belt when driving.

Do I think that we need some group of people who think that they know better than the rest of us to tell us what we can and can't do? No, piss off.

You know what should be mandatory? Minding your own god damn business.

 

You know what should be mandatory?

Popcorn. Lots of popcorn for helmet threads

 

Darwinism. This planet is over populated. If someone is too cool to wear a helmet then more power to them. We have dummy proofed everything. I think there should be less laws and rules and just post warnings and the dangers and let people do what they do. Stupid people making more stupid people. This planet is full of people that never should have made the cut.

I've drove without a seat belt and I've rode without a helmet, but I knew the dangers and will except the consequences.

 

I always wear a helmet on snow or on my bike

Mainly because I know that the one time I don't wear one, I will fall and crack my head open. If I live, I will have to listen to people say "you should have been wearing a helmet" for the rest of my life

 

If its an event they probably should be required if the organizers don't want to get sued or some garbage. IMO there are too many people, everyone cannot be saved, we should not try to save everyone. Darwin and all that crap. If people want to kill themselves let them. I see most people wearing helmets now a days (in the poconos anyway).

Am I an asshole? Maybe.

*edit* I like this forum, lots of no nonsense, common sense and smart individuals. I feel at home

 

Helmet thread?